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RE: [epf-dev] Re-architecting OpenUP Telecon Tuesday August 22nd
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I'll try to see if I can participate. However, I'll be in 
the Upper Peninsula of Michigan camping, so I can't speak to the cell phone 
reception and general mayhem at-large. If I can't make it, I guess the biggest 
point I have (irrespective of the graphic) is that we should represent 
collaboration pretty clearly. I think it would be ironic if we claim that OpenUP 
is collaborative, but with little evidence of such collaboration in the actual 
process model. So, I propose that our capability patterns not be 
discipline-focused (which doesn't represent collaboration with other roles very 
well), but instead be collaboration-focused. That is, they should include at 
least one role (and appriopriate tasks) from at least two of the domains 
(management, user, development). In the four-circle graphic (with the product at 
the center), these proposed capability patterns are represented on the arrows 
between the domains. Then I suggest that we represent complete team-focused 
collaboration (which is also product-focused) as configurations of these 
capability patterns in each of the four phases (represented by their intent vs. 
their actual names in the product circle).
 
I believe in the current OpenUP method content, each domain 
is reasonably decoupled from another (as it relates to interdependencies between 
tasks and work products), with the exception of key work products such as work 
item list and others. In the collaboration approach I described, there would be 
pretty high coupling in the inter-domain capability patterns. So, the 
consequences of this would be if some one wanted to replace a domain, we would 
place pretty few constraints on what they replaced it with (based on the shared 
work products). However, they would need to redefine the capability patterns 
that represented collaboration with the other two domains. This does not trouble 
me, however. Basically the capability patterns are method content configured 
into process, so if someone replaces a big chunk of OpenUP method content (like 
an entire domain), it seems only natural that they would need to redefine the 
collaboration that the replaced domain has with the other two pre-existing 
domains (i.e. redefine part of the existing process, but not redefine the 
existing method content). 
 
Have a great week!
 
Thanks, Chris ~:|
 
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OK, I found them in bugzilla 
entry https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152354 Cheers Per 
Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process 
Framework
Rational Software, IBM Corp
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Hi, 
I can attend. 
Brian, which slides are you referring to? I see a 
Word document from 7/24 with one graphic showing a Venn diagram. Is there more 
than that graphic? 
Also, was there a discussion in DC about a potential 4th pie, 
suggested by Scott, dealing with Deployment? My gut feeling is that it is a good 
idea, but we do not have much on deployment today. It could serve as better to 
wait a little before adding it, so we do not have a pie advertising our big 
hole.. :) 
Also, before taking a clear stand on whether that pie makes sense, 
I would like to see the underlying process model to ensure that it is reasonably 
well decouplde from the other "pies".. 
Cheers 
Per Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / 
RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software, IBM 
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hiho, 
 
I’ll be there.   
 
Can we also ensure that Chris Armstrong is on the call? 
 During the face-to-face I was enamored with all the thought that went into 
the graphics he created, but I want to make sure we have a unified perspective 
and that the Venn/evil-eye ideas synch with the pie ideas. 
 
    
                      
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[mailto:epf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve 
Adolph
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:45 PM
To: 'Eclipse 
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Subject: [epf-dev] 
Re-architecting OpenUP Telecon Tuesday August 22nd 
 
Good morning 
everyone. 
 
During this morning’s General 
and Overarching issues telecon we decided that we need a telecon to discuss the 
issues raised by bugzilla issue 
  
  
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This 
call is scheduled for Tuesday August 22nd at 8:00am PDT.  Please 
refer to the calendar for call details. 
 
This call may have to be re-scheduled if Per Kroll is not 
available. 
 
Best regards, 
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