| Just to remind everyone, most developers just look at the platform
    javadocs.  When some average developer is looking at some random API
    in the Jakarta EE 10 platform javadocs and sees "@since 1.1", how
    are they expected to interpret that?  The best solution would be to
    use the platform version number, but that doesn't work when looking
    at an individual API's javadocs.  If the number can't be relative to
    the javadocs they're looking at, the next best seemed to be to
    qualify the number in some way with the name of the spec it refers
    to. 
 Expecting that average developers will trace their way up the
    package tree until they find something that tells them what spec the
    number refers to seems like too much to me.
 
 
 
 Emily Jiang wrote on 7/16/19 9:05 AM:
 
      
      +1 on option 1 as it still stands correct. Emily  
        
          
          
            
            
              
                
 
                  
                  
                    
                      Perhaps we can have something like "@Since
                        Java Transaction API 1.1 (TM/copyright Oracle?)" 
 For now my PR was approved and merged to
                        remove the name entirely. I (personally) don't
                        find that too confusing or at least no more
                        confusing that referencing a non-existent
                        Jakarta Transactions 1.1. That said, I would be
                        happy to raise a new PR with any naming
                        convention the community decides. I see the
                        following options: 1. @Since 1.1 2. @Since (some agreed way of referencing old
                        JCP spec name) 1.1 3. @Since (new Jakarta spec name) 1.1 4. Remove @Since entirely 
 Whatever option we go for though I would hope
                        that all specs will follow the same convention. 
 I would be in favour of option 1.  with the
                    addition of whatever metadata (spec name &
                    version) could be added in javadoc via
                    package-info.java 
 - Ray
   
                    
                    
 
                      
                      _______________________________________________
                        _______________________________________________ The reason the spec name
                          was included is because when all the javadocs
                          are combined to form the platform javadocs,
                          it's much less clear what spec "1.1" refers
                          to. 
                          Using a Jakarta spec name in @since can be
                          misleading or wrong since we didn't have old
                          versions of the Jakarta specs.  Still, I think
                          that's better than dropping the spec name
                          entirely and introducing the ambiguity.
                          
                           Scott
                            Stark wrote on 7/15/19 11:42 AM:
  The most common
                            things seems to be to simply drop the
                            reference to the spec
                            
 @since Common Annotations 1.1 ->
                              @since 1.1 
                                
                                  
                                  
 
                                    
                                      How do we handle "@since"
                                        tags? 
 For example: 
 > * @since Common
                                        Annotations 1.1 
 I'm guessing we leave them
                                        but I wanted to make sure.
 
 - Ray
 
                                      
                                      
                                        _______________________________________________Right, the staged approach
                                          is what we are going to have
                                          to do.
                                           
                                            
                                              
                                                
                                                
 
                                                  
                                                    Just to follow
                                                      up on the TCK call
                                                      from earlier
                                                      today. 
 
 Please can we
                                                      confirm a decision
                                                      for spec leads on
                                                      how to deal with
                                                      dependencies on
                                                      other Jakarta EE
                                                      projects in their
                                                      poms and whether
                                                      to proceed to
                                                      staging/TCK runs
                                                      before those other
                                                      projects release
                                                      or whether we will
                                                      form some kind of
                                                      sequencing?
                                                      Perhaps as a
                                                      community we could
                                                      do it in two
                                                      stages? Request an
                                                      initial release to
                                                      staging this week
                                                      with current
                                                      dependency sets
                                                      then a follow up
                                                      release once we
                                                      know all the
                                                      artifacts are
                                                      staged?
 
                                                    
                                                    
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