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The specification committee also has “at least one” seat for the EE4J PMC in addition to the Committer seat(s) and the PMC is discussing how we select that seat. Current thought is it will go to
an individual who is not a member of an organisation that has a seat through other means
https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg00202.html therefore the likelihood is that this will also be an individual committer or a small corporate member.
Steve From: ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Ondrej Mihályi Werner, Your numbers aren't correct. The charter as of now says that each committee has "at least" one seat for committer members. That means one or more per committee and not at most one as you wrote. Mike has clarified
that the expected number of non-vendor committers and collaborators is "tens" rather than "thousands" so it should be fine. But I like Guillermo's suggestion to specify a ratio for committer members. E.g. it could be a range from 10%-20% and there would always be at least one seat for a committer member as is proposed now. The current charter states for most committees that: - each strategic partner (mostly big vendors) has a seat (I expect around 4) - at least 2 seats for influencers (enterprise or strategic Eclipse members) - at least 1 seat for participants (enterprise, strategic and solution members) - at least 1 seat for committers That would be at least 7 non-committer seats. With 7 non-committer seats, 10-20% would mean there is only 1 committer member (2 out of 9 is more than 20%). WIth 8 non-committer seats that would be 1-2 committer
members (2 out of 10 is exactly 20%). Cheers, Ondro Mihályi Senior Payara Service Engineer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Payara Services Limited, Registered office:
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ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <ee4j-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Guillermo González de Agüero <z06.guillermo@xxxxxxxxx> Don't want to go into number discussions, but we all know there will be a lot of contributions from non commiter, mostly individual people. The vendor commiter/individual committer ratio might be around 10:1, but the community contributing to the project will be much larger than its commiter count. Anyway, as I said, this concerns can be easily mitigated by defining a ratio where (just an example) every 5 vendor commiters, there's an elected individual. That ensures the community will always have the same amount of control even in
the case lots of vendors begin interested on the project (hope that comes a reality!). Do you think that could be feasible? Regards, Guillermo González de Agüero El mié., 28 mar. 2018 a las 1:06, Mike Milinkovich (<mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>) escribió:
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