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Re: [ee4j-community] EE4J Project Proposals

To be clear, the Eclipse project names will be as described previously, e.g., "Eclipse Project for JAX-RS".  We don't expect that to change.

What's under discussion is licensing use of the Java trademark in the names of specifications to be developed by the EE4J project.  If those discussions are successful the specification will be able to be named "JAX-RS: JavaTM API for XML-based RESTful Web Services" as it currently is.


Kevin Sutter wrote on 11/27/17 08:10 AM:
Markus and others,
Watch this space (and the corresponding proposals) for updates to the proposed project names...  We are working closely with Oracle to determine what's doable and what's not.  The proposed naming convention for the spec projects currently being discussed should be favorable to the discussion happening here.  I don't want to jump the gun and announce anything quite yet -- just in case things change from an Oracle perspective...  As the naming convention gets approved, then the names for the proposals will be adjusted accordingly.

FYI, the RI projects will most likely stay with the current names -- ie, Eclipse Jersey, Eclipse Grizzly, Eclipse Mojarra, etc.  It's just the spec projects that are causing a hiccup.

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From:        "Markus KARG" <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        "'EE4J community discussions'" <ee4j-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        11/24/2017 11:08 AM
Subject:        Re: [ee4j-community] EE4J Project Proposals
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I don't understand that new versions of the JAX-RS specification shall be done, but at the same time it would violate Oracle's naming rights if we call that new specification still "JAX-RS"…?! That means, we have to rename the specification's name? BTW, a quick search in the WIPO Global Trademark Database did not bear any registration of the term "JAX-RS", neither by Oracle nor by others.
-Markus
 
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Re: [ee4j-community] EE4J Project Proposals

 
On 2017-11-23 11:58 AM, Markus KARG wrote:
What is "the corresponding spec project"? For JAX-RS for example, Jersey is "just" the RI, and it is just the *current* RI.

Exactly right.


In the JCP we could decide to have future release of JAX-RS with different RIs.

It is the intent of Oracle, IBM, Red Hat, and other participants that future versions of the JAX-RS specs will be done using a new spec process hosted at the Eclipse Foundation.


So does that mean that from now on the JCP must stick with Eclipse-provided *current* RIs forever?

Um. no. That would be dumb. And under the new spec process provisions will be made to allow new RIs to appear, as well as ensuring the creation of independent implementations.
Actually I do not understand why the API project is not simply named "JAX-RS API", the TCK project "JAX-RS TCK" and the RI simply "Jersey"?

Because those project names would violate Oracle's trademark rights in the "JAX-RS" name.

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