Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] extended talks discussion

[Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey!

To me it looks like using the extended talks slot for those kind of special sessions (like the symposiums, panel discussions, and lightning talks) makes sense, whereas giving them to “great speakers” or “most wanted topics/speakers” doesn’t seem to be a good idea.

Cheers,
-Martin



> Am 06.11.2014 um 15:52 schrieb Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> FWIW, at past EclipseCon NA we used the last slot of the day for the
> extended talks since it provides flexibility for scheduling. For instance
> not all the talks in the last slot need to be extended.   In the past, this
> extended slot has been used for lightening talks, symposiums and panel
> discussions. It is also used for popular speakers that want the extra time.
> 
> 
> We certainly need to be careful about scheduling all the great speakers at
> the same time. This is something we try to take into account during the
> scheduling process. 
> 
> Ian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Marc Khouzam
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> Subject: Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] extended talks discussion
> 
> I agree with those points too.
> It also bothered me in the past that the extended/popular talks were last in
> the day, when people are more tired and often more distracted, unless that
> was a desired feature to help keep people interested.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:eclipsecon-na-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
>> Of Sebastian Zarnekow
>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:39 AM
>> To: Eclipsecon NA program committee discussions
>> Subject: Re: [eclipsecon-na-program-committee] extended talks 
>> discussion
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I completely agree to those points. Especially the fact that the 
>> anticipated popular talks become extended talks and thereby run in
> parallel is a bummer.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sebastian
>> 
>> 
>> On 06.11.2014, at 13:34, Martin Lippert <mlippert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey!
>>> 
>>> This feedback about extended talks is discussed on the PC group of
>> EclipseCon Europe at the moment. Since we might want to have a few 
>> extended talks as well, I thought it might be a good idea to share 
>> this feedback here with you:
>>> 
>>>> Great conference guys. There is one thing on my chest that I want 
>>>> to
>> supply feedback on that I propose to change for next year. These are 
>> the extended talks.
>>>> 
>>>> We had only good intentions when we created them. We wanted to give
>> the best speakers/talks more time to speak about their topic and get 
>> feedback from their community. I think it turned quit into the 
>> opposite
>>>> 	* a lot of our best talks are now in parallel on this extended talk
> slot
>>>> 	* Attendees get frustrated because they want at least see 3 or 4 
>>>> of
>> the 7 extended slots and then as a consequence miss good content
>>>> 	* Speakers dont get the attention they deserve because there is
>> another great talk in parallel
>>>> 	* Last not least I also found that a good 35 min talk does not get 
>>>> double as good in double the time. I went to see Eclipse Flux which 
>>>> is a project that I really love (Martin knows that) but I think the 
>>>> added benefit of the extra 25 minutes was not that extraordinary at 
>>>> the end. (And I missed SmartHome, Java Wearables and a Java talk 
>>>> from Stephan Herrmann) I see two options. One is drop the extended 
>>>> time slot. The second is to not give extended talks to the best 
>>>> speakers but to content that needs extra time. I got quit good 
>>>> feedback for the lighting talk format from the Model Symposium. So 
>>>> why not have next time the Modeling Symposium and the IoT Symposium 
>>>> and an Xtext/DSL symposium and a general Lightning Talk session. 
>>>> (and maybe we have to reach to find people to run these symposia)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What do you think for EclipseCon NA?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Martin
>>> 
>>> 
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