I am afraid that the amount of coordination for the dinner BOFs will be to high of a barrier and my guess is that they will not happen.
Trying to coordinate the reservation with a restaurant is a challenge as is, and with 8 – 10 people (maybe), it will be a pain for the organizer and the restaurant.
I am not sure the benefits, if any, will outweigh the distractions and effort.
My 2 cents..
Dave
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How about the following:Leave lunch alone. I agree with everyone that it is working well and attendees need the downtime.
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Monday BOFs - 5:30-6:30pm
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NOTE we will have a happpy hour from 4:30-5:30 in the exhibit hall. We usually have the awards ceremony but we are not going to do that this year.]
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Monday Dinner BOFs - 7-10
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As described but I would suggest we need a better name.
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If we do these dinners I suggest we do them early in the week so gives people an opportunity to network.
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Tuesday
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No BOFs. We will have an exhibitor reception from 6-7 or 7:30
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Eclipse Late Night 9-1pm we invite people to come back to the hotel bar.
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-Wednesday BOFs 6-7pm
Overall we have only 1 time slot for BOFs on Monday and Tuesday. It would mean fewer slots but hopefully better quality.
Thoughts?
Ian
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On 08/10/2013 9:19 AM, Eike Stepper wrote:
Am 07.10.2013 23:35, schrieb Ian Bull:
I agree with everyone on the lunch situation.
I also don't like the idea of BoFs during lunch or too late in the evening (i.e. after having dinner somewhere else).
The dinner BoF is interesting. However, if we do this then we must ensure that these events feel inclusive. Even after attending 7 EclipseCons, I still find 'tagging along for dinner' a little socially awkward. Maybe a dinner BoF will help
with this? Anne, while obviously the attendees are expected to self-organize the BoFs, would it be possible to suggest some reasonably priced restaurants for them to host the BoF at? Another consideration is the size. 30 people showing up at a restaurant is
probably not ideal.
I do like the idea of "organizing" the outside dinner with some topics to talk about. That might even make it easier to have a nice dinner experience for those that come alone (not sure if that's really a problem).
Pascal's idea of having the hotel restaurant deliver food sounds also nice, but I'm not sure if they can manage for so many people.
Cheers
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As for the late night BoFs, I agree with everyone else, once people leave, it's very hard to get them back and a 9:30 BoF is much too late.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Shawn Pearce <sop@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1 for an early BoF before dinner. The Boston EclipseCon BoF schedule
just didn't work, for the reasons already mentioned about folks
leaving for dinner and not coming back.
Also +1 for leaving lunch alone. As John and Gunnar stated, lunch is a
good time to break from the conference and socialize. I would hate
attending a BoF with a boxed lunch.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Gunnar Wagenknecht
<gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I like the idea of having dinner BoFs and will definitely organize one by
> myself! For me, the late BoFs never worked out. I just couldn't contribute
> to a BoF after 8pm anymore. Thus, I'd prefer the earlier option (6:30pm)
> maybe in combination with the dinner BoFs.
>
> I also agree with John's comment about lunch BoFs. I'd like to have a break.
> The EclipseCon lunch really is special and a good way to socialize. I've
> re-learned that this year at JavaOne again. They only had lunch boxes and it
> wasn't really a relaxin/good experience (IMHO).
>
> -Gunnar
>
>
> Am 07.10.2013 um 21:49 schrieb Anne Jacko <anne.jacko@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We would like to change how we are scheduling BoFs to make the experience
> better for attendees. Ian S and discussed some ideas, and we'd like your
> feedback.
>
> We would also like to hear your ideas, since all of you organize and attend
> BoFs.
>
> Before 2012, most attendees ate dinner at a conference reception and then
> went straight to a BoF. That seemed to work well. But we no longer include a
> full dinner at the receptions, so most attendees try to fit in a reception,
> then dinner, and then BoFs, and it's not working well.
>
> Going back to providing dinner isn't an option (for this year) since the
> lower attendee prices won't cover it. There are lots of dinner options in
> Burlingame, but attendees would need at least two hours to get into
> Burlingame, eat, and get back to the hotel.
>
> Some suggestions -- and we could do a mix of these:
> - have one hour of BoFs, starting late (~9pm)
> - have one hour of BoFs, starting early (~6:30pm)
> - have box lunches, and offer BoFs during lunchtime
> - have attendees self-organize into "dinner BoFs" where they sign up on a
> wiki to be part of a group that is meeting for dinner at a local restaurant
>
> BTW, we don't think transportation from the hotel to Burlingame is a hurdle.
> It's a short drive, and we could provide chartered buses to loop between the
> hotel and downtown Burlingame between 7 and 11pm.
>
> So please discuss on this list!
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
> Anne Jacko
> Eclipse Foundation
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