Pascal,
I think the idea of a dinner BOF is more an opportunity for people
to network with people with similar interests. It is more a lunch
table topic than a traditional
See comments below.
On 08/10/2013 2:21 AM, Pascal Rapicault
wrote:
On the paper, I like the idea of a
dinner BOF however I have several concerns: (Note that by
"dinner" I expect a 3 course meals at a table).
- First, infrastructure wise: there will be no projector, no
microphone, etc.
None will be provided.
- Size of the table, if we have
8/10ppl tables, then it is really no different than a topic
table we have at lunch, and if we have larger tables then it
will be very hard
to hear anyone talk, and / or we could bother other guests from
the restaurant.
Agreed this might be the negative. If you have 2 tables of 8 people
maybe you need to move between tables between courses.
- How do we size the number of
attendees? BOFs are usually more "spontaneous"
This is a challenge.
- Will it be that easy to get to and
from the restaurant?
We are planning to provide buses into Burlingame. It is a about a
5-10 minutes ride. Some people might even walk.
- Meeting at the restaurant is too
late if the topics covered by the BOF are not interesting to
you. (I would recommend first meeting somewhere in the hotel, or
have a list of topics posted)
Agreed the topics would have to be set beforehand.
- Dinner is longer than one hour.
Yes this would be an evening affair.
Here are several variations / alternatives:
- Have the hotel provide food during the BOFs. The idea would be
to have the attendees of a BOF order their food from the hotel
restaurant and have it delivered in the room (or have the
restaurant staff take order into the rooms).
Unfortunately hotels don't work that way. For large groups we need
to pre-order food and it is not cheap. The mark-up hotels put on
food and beverage is huge.
- Have "barcamp" style BOFs, where a
space in a restaurant is reserved, where attendees can mingle
more easily and order what they want.
Finally, I'm wondering if it would be possible to keep two BOFs
every evening. An early with food, a later one w/o food but with
more infrastructure.
Right now we are open to options. However, last year BOFs did not
work out very well so I think we need to look at alternatives.
Ian S
On 10/07/2013 05:35 PM, Ian Bull
wrote:
I agree with everyone on the lunch situation.
The dinner BoF is interesting. However, if we do this
then we must ensure that these events feel inclusive. Even
after attending 7 EclipseCons, I still find 'tagging along
for dinner' a little socially awkward. Maybe a dinner BoF
will help with this? Anne, while obviously the attendees are
expected to self-organize the BoFs, would it be possible to
suggest some reasonably priced restaurants for them to host
the BoF at? Another consideration is the size. 30 people
showing up at a restaurant is probably not ideal.
As for the late night BoFs, I agree with everyone else,
once people leave, it's very hard to get them back and a
9:30 BoF is much too late.
Cheers,
Ian
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