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Re: [eclipse.org-planning-council] A suggested topic for Planning Council Discussion
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Hi Ed,
Ed Merks wrote:
Scott,
I think we need to address all these needs. It's just not clear that a one
size fits all train does the job any better than a small tent makes a good
t-shirt just because it "fits" everyone.
I agree.
We can't just live in an
idealistic world where all projects are equal because it's just not
reality.
I really don't think I'm proposing living any unrealistic/idealistic
world. I like to think I'm just proposing that we live in the world of
our choosing/making (i.e. an open, inclusive organization).
(I can't believe I'm arguing against idealism, but it seems
necessary.)
I'm surprised too!
I think Doug's idea has merit.
I think Doug has merit :), but I don't like that idea at all, for stated
reasons and below.
I think there need to be folks
who take responsibilities for the packages. That takes dedication and
resource.
Yes, I agree. As an example, I probably others would like to create a
package (and have it distributed via EF) for Team Collaboration.
Notwithstanding my own resource limitations, I can't currently do this
(because I can't create an EPP package, I can't create the EF download
pages, I can't do integration testing with all included projects, etc.,
etc). So I think there are two main issues: 1) the openness...and
fairness frankly...of having a two/n-tier system with current
technologies; and 2) resources (Doug G's point).
It seems to me that those who are so dedicated and who cough up
the resource will be in the position to define what's in and what's not...
True...but there are, of course, tangible limits to how much can be done
individually as opposed to cooperatively (e.g.
access/tools/framework). That's reality too. I think people would
probably recognize that I and others have dedicated a lot in terms of
resources, and are willing to provide more...but it doesn't seem out of
line to expect in good faith that other community members will also be
cooperative and supportive of those shared goals in order to achieve the
desired community result.
Scott
