Re: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] 12/8 Meeting Minutes and

[Oisin Hurley <oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx>]

Chris et al,
On 2144, the EMF tutorial, I'll be happy to move my vote to a +1 if the
non-hands-on piece is moved out.

It's great to have a shorter list, as it helps focus :)

> 2049    Building Eclipse plugins and RCP applications with Tycho, Nexus and Hudson
> 1980    Developing Rich Clients with Eclipse 4.x RCP
> 2047+2052       Hands on with the C/C++ IDE for Linux
> 1995    Getting Started with BIRT
> 2035    Effective Git
> 2139    GWT App start to finish
> 2267    Style It! The Eclipse 4 Styling Tutorial
> 2329    Architecture Patterns and Code Templates for Enterprise RCP Applications
> *2144   What every Eclipse Developer should know about EMF (Tentative
> given Ed convinces Dave and others)


2049, 2035, 1980, 2267, 2329, 2144 really work together to give an
(almost) complete intermediate *tooling* course for an Eclipse
developer. What's missing to round it out is 1) basic plugin and
2) something with testing. [BTW scheduling these in a certain
order might be very useful for attendees]

2047/52 Great to see C/C++ coming in here. But is it only for
Linux users?

1995 I don't think it is massively outside model boundary to consider
an EclipseCon that doesn't have a BIRT tutorial. I'm considering
changing my vote from a +1 to 0.

2139  This is a little anomalous. I think it would be preferable to
have one of the mobile dev tutorials than a GWT one. I'll change
my vote from a +1 to a 0 here.

What I find *really* interesting is the runtime situation - the fact
that we are going to chase someone down to make a tutorial
for RT, specifically. It there's cracks in the Eclipse RT strategy,
there are stronger harbingers (cf Swordfish exit from Indigo)
that are in the public domain already.

Before we get any explosions on that last sentence, I just want
to add that the issue at hand may be dilution - there is a bagload
of runtimey stuff with OSGi and Eclipse and Apache, and they
(in general) have very little differentiation except around the
calibre of the sponsoring organization. That being said, I would
have expected the Virgo guys to come forward and show that
the world that this is a vital project.

Now I have to go and look at the other talks :|  Chris has had
the nuts to do what I wanted last year's committee to do, but I
backed off on - i.e. everyone reviews every damn abstract :)

  cheers
    --oh