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[eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] A reply to Gunnar's blog posting about Eclipsezilla
A reply to Gunnar's blog posting:
http://wagenknecht.org/blog/archives/2007/10/eclipsecon-2008-submissions.html
  • How can I watch individual submissions?
1. Go to the submission. For example, this one https://eclipsecon.greenmeetingsystems.com/submissions/view/4
2. The fourth item on the page is "mailing list". Click on that.
3. Subscribe to that mailing list.
4. You, and everyone else on the list, will get notified of all changes.
  • Where is the CC field?
5. See #1-4
  • Where will the program committee votes be visible?
6. On the submission page.
  • Where can the community vote?
7. We're not going to have community voting this year because it was abused by corporate marketing departments.
8. Instead we're counting on the community to write reviews (actual prose) which is more useful to the program committer anyway.

  • What is behind those cryptic mailing list names?
9. There are hundreds of them. Hence numbers are better.
  • Where is the change history for a submission?
10. It's there, but I forgot to expose it through the web pages. It will be exposed soon.
11. The Foundation Corporation maintains a number of internal wikis that it does not expose to the outside world. the misnamed "EclipseCon wiki" is one of those. This particular wiki is used for financial discussions with vendors that are contractually not able to be made public.

12. See #11
  • Where can I download the source code for the new submission system? What about bug tracking and development planning?
13. You can't. We don't own the code. One of our vendors supplies the system. They are not interested in open sourcing it.
14. We use many vendors to manage EclipseCon. For example, our registrations are handled by iPlan (http://live.iplanevents.com/). We also do not own that system, nor is the code open source.  For example, Council and Board meeting dinner registrations are handled by RegOnline (http://regonline.com/). We do not own that system, nor is the code open source.
15. Feel free to enter bugs under the Eclipse Foundation > Community > EclipseCon item in bugzilla.
16. I would love to have an open source infrastructure for the submission system. I, however, don't have time to write one. But if you can implement one that does all the cool things we need for a successful EclipseCon, we'll switch over to yours - just let me know :-)

  • Why is it hosted outside the Eclipse.org infrastructure?
17. Because I ran out of time to set up the infrastructure inside eclipse.org. *I* decided that it was better to open the submission system using a service than to wait another week or two to get the internal hosting with all the permissions and accounts and such.
18. There are.
  • It probably has been developed by an external consultancy.
19. Yes it has. See #13
  • However, do all these reasons really satisfy a development approach which looks closed source like to me?
20. See #11
  • I’m a bit disappointed now. This is something I didn’t expect. Maybe I’m just too curious and a lot of these items are already on an to-do list. But again, where is this to-do list?
21. Don't know what to do about your expectations. I'm a constant source of disappointment to world.
22. Re: to do list - good point - I should have made that public. So now I have.

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