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RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Thank you!

Hard to get beer through the wires, but here are some thoughts I had (some of which I’ve already shared w/ Bjorn):

 

  • Archive the email list. Many of the discussions simply do not map onto individual talks, which is part of the problem we had with “exposing” more of the process this time around – it’s just not possible to go into 50 different talks and copy a transcription of an email paragraph that might be in some way relevant to them. The concern with doing this was that keynote speaker discussions might be sensitive, but there was a fairly distinct period in which we discussed those, and after that archiving could be turned on.
  • Enable abstracts in EclipseZilla search results. This would be messy, but occasionally very useful (and saves a ton of click-throughs).
  • Clarify what voting (community and PC) means up front. (I still don’t understand exactly what PC votes were supposed to mean ;-).
  • Track short talks. We didn’t have any hallway collisions that required medical attention, but this was a complaint I heard several times.
  • Dispense with user/developer distinction. But keep business track separate as a concept.
  • Use Bugzilla to enable PMCs to select their talks. This would be more transparent and would avoid having the poor PC chair emailing them repeatedly.
  • Add something to Bugzilla to track “project association”. We spent a great deal of time reengineering which talks went w/ which projects in an effort to get balance and coverage. I would go two levels down for technology, tools, and platform.
  • Get virtual track recommendations in early, and use Bugzilla for them. I’m thinking of RCP and embedded this year – it was much easier once we had them in the system.
  • Decide the allocation up front. It’s not a good use of time to go over the ground rules again and again. I would suggest next year’s PC establish the long/short talk ratio and “Thursday length decision” up front (or maybe not even be given a choice in the matter) and then spend its time on programming to those constraints.
  • Accept that community involvement and ultimate transparency of decision making are two different things. I’m totally pro involving the community (a la Amazon) – the more info, awareness, and engagement we can get with the conference, program, and submissions, the better. But short of transcribing every phone call and copying each transcript into every submission in EclipseZilla, the process will never be a fully transparent one, and I’m not sure that the extreme cost of achieving that level of transparency is ultimately worth it – the choice to have a PC versus simply an election process necessarily means that individual and group aesthetics play a part in the final answer – it’s misleading to suggest to the community that every pairwise “why X and not Y” question will be answered.

 

 

And one suggestion for the conference at large (because I’m too lazy to go record it elsewhere): Keep the doors to the vendor floor open (even if you have to rope them off for crowd control purposes). Maybe even have a table of food *outside* the doors to help lead people in...

 


From: eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mandel
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I'm in for a post mortem.

One thing I think the next PC should focus on is an even more open process. I'd like to see the PC add comments on submissions rather than capture comments in e-mails or spreadsheets. I think some reasoning behind a rejection decision will go a long way to help people feel they didn't waste time on their submission and help them improve future submissions. This will take some time but should be manageable if the comments are added as decisions are made (rather than all at the end).

I agree with Ed's comments about setting up topics for short rooms ahead of time. I read and heard a lot of complaints from people running from room to room during the short talks, which, if I remember correctly, is exactly what Tim was concerned would happen.

Lawrence Mandel

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+1 on all of these comments.  Ok, enough with the love fest.  J
 
Would anyone be interested in doing a “post mortem” on EclipseCon 2006, the role of the Program Committee, Eclipsezilla, etc.?  My experience with stuff like this is that it’s better to talk about it right afterwards and take some great notes for the next time.  I’ve started writing some things down, but a group discussion might be fun.  (Beer would help.)
 
Any takers?  
 
Doug
 

 



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...and thanks to you, Tim! You organized and led the Program Committee to a major success! IMHO EclipseCon 2006 was the best ever and it's significantly due to your contributions. Great job!
Best,
MikeT
 
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Nancy and Erin,
 
Thank you so much for your help in organizing the program, especially the last minute details with the short talks. Your efforts and organizational skills really made it possible to execute on our program, and I personally appreciate all your support, time responses, and polite handling of exceptional cases.
 
Best wishes,
 
 
Tim Wagner, on behalf of the program committee
 

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