RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Possible vote rigging

[Paul M Vanderlei <pvlei@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree completely with Mike on this. I appreciate the information Ed has
gathered. To me, it just tells us to ignore the votes on those submissions
and evaluate them on their own merits. That was sort of the approach I'd
been taking all along.

Paul VanderLei
Embedded Java Enablement Team
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"I don't see architecture coming from you." -Jerry Seinfeld



Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:53 PM
To: "'Eclipsecon Program Committee list'"
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From: "Mike Milinkovich" <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Possible vote
rigging




IMHO my general feeling is that you guys are taking these votes waaaayyyyy
too seriously.

The idea is that this program is being run as an open source project. You
are the committers. That means you make the decisions. The votes are an
interesting data point, but I really hope that you're not just using the
voting mechanism to drive the decision making process. As one of many
decision inputs --- great. As *the* decision criteria --- bad.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee-bounces@eclip
> se.org] On Behalf Of Ed Burnette
> Sent: January 8, 2006 9:45 PM
> To: Eclipsecon Program Committee list
> Subject: [eclipse.org-eclipsecon-program-committee] Possible
> vote rigging
>
> I have reason to believe that votes for the following
> submissions have been falsely inflated:
>
> #1  130   Data Tools Platform Project Tutorial (*)
> #2  187   Building Integrated Help for a Commercial
> Eclipse Product
> #4  199   Data Tools for Rich Clients (*)
> #6  207   Implementing SQL Debugger using Eclipse Debug framework
> #3  234   Extending Eclipse WTP to Build Commercial
> Development Product
> #5  235   STP Project Overview (*)
>
> The ones marked with (*) have already been accepted, partly
> because of the number of votes we thought they received. The
> ranking in overall community votes is shown on the left. As
> you can see these are the top 6 vote getters. They all
> received 37 or more votes, while #7 received 28 votes.
>
> Most or all of the votes on these entries are suspicious. As
> evidence of this, consider the large number of accounts that
> voted for these exact same 6 submissions. The odds that that
> so many people would independently vote for the same 6 items
> are astronomical. Bogus votes make it hard for us to say
> which submissions were actually wanted by the community.
>
> The PC needs to decide what to do about it, from doing
> nothing, to erasing the votes we suspect are bogus and
> re-evaluating, to automatically disqualifying all 6 entries.
> I mean, we all knew there was a little ballot stuffing with
> people asking their buddies to vote for things, but this is
> beyond the pale. A strong response might discourage this sort
> of thing in the future.
>
> Here's a list of 30 email addresses that voted for the the
> exact same 6 submissions listed above:
>
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=ajay.telang@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=barbara.schott@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=col1kid@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=danny.janssens2@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=duquetteb@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=fishboneml@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=franklopez2000@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=fricke@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=garyrstu-web@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=gibbonsp@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=haroldwmason@xxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=info@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=jdunrue@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=Kimberlytroupe@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=kwringe@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=laniyuen@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=louise_kirby@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=marckaneko@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=mercer116@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=naeem_maqsud@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=nikki15161@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=pat_e@xxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=pauld_ec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=prince1968@xxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=prwhalen@xxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=sheila.fraser2@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=sujayshetty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=susan38xs@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=the.kesslers@xxxxxxx
>
> And here are 3 more accounts that voted for the 6 listed
> above plus number 245. (submission number 245 looks ok though):
>
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=emdelaney@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=jwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/votes.cgi?action=show_
> user&user=ysmalinowski@xxxxxxxxxxx
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