| FWIW, we are working on an Eclipse brand strategy to help resolve
    the overloaded term 'Eclipse'. The strategy is being provided to the
    Eclipse Foundation Board for approval. Part of the strategy is a
    recommendation to rename the Eclipse TLP.  Once the Board has
    reviewed the strategy I would be happy to go through it with the
    Eclipse PMC. 
 
 On 11/27/2017 2:53 PM, Mike Wilson
      wrote:
 
      This comes up in conversation every few years.
          Usually, the outcome is that we realize that the value of
          changing this isn't worth the confusion/cost. Really, for
          every person who is confused, there are thousands (millions?)
          who already know where to go to get the SDK. Think even of all
          the places where there are external links based on the current
          name, for example.
 I can't say I'm completely against the idea, but
          someone would need to come up with a comprehensive plan for
          the transition and then convince me it was workable first.
 
 McQ.
 
 
  Lars Vogel ---2017/11/27
          12:01:46---+0 (I do not have a strong opinion on that) On Mon,
          Nov 27, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Mickael Istria <mistria 
 From: Lars
          Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: eclipse-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
 Date: 2017/11/27
          12:01
 Subject: Re:
          [eclipse-pmc] Renaming `Eclipse` top-level project into
          `Eclipse SDK`?
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 +0 (I do not have a strong opinion on that)
 
 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Mickael Istria
          <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 > Hi all,
 >
 > As most of you are probably aware, our Eclipse community
          is now much more
 > than the Eclipse Platform, SDK, IDE... and the legacy
          around Eclipse SDK/IDE
 > makes that the Eclipse term is often not properly used
          nor understood by
 > some people in the target ecosystem. It typically implies
          for too many
 > people that Eclipse Community and Foundation are only
          about the Eclipse
 > Platform and IDE, which is wrong and unfair.
 >
 > To clarify that, EMO (and I imagine some other projects)
          would like to avoid
 > the "Eclipse" top-level project to be about Platform and
          SDK. They'd
 > basically want the Eclipse Community and Foundation to
          not have one single
 > "Eclipse" top-level project and to have the Eclipse
          project be called
 > Eclipse Something to streamline it with the current
          practices for all other
 > top-level projects.
 >
 > As committer representative, I do understand and support
          the wish to clarify
 > that. I think it would be more fair with other Eclipse
          projects, and on
 > mid-term, it would simplify several things related to
          branding and other
 > stuff, both for the Eclipse Platform, SDK, IDE and all
          other Eclipse-related
 > projects and initiatives.
 > As Platform contributors, I think it's fine as long as it
          doesn't change
 > anything technically speaking: the renaming shouldn't
          change the Git
 > repository URLs, Bugzilla components nor anything like
          that. I hope that if
 > Eclipse PMC escalates the request to EMO, EMO would
          understand the need for
 > "technical" stability during this rename and wouldn't
          object to keep the
 > current "endpoints" and let the project adopt some newer
          ones if it wants
 > to, when it wants to.
 >
 > We already discussed it with Dani and Alex at EclipseCon
          Europe, and the
 > good proposal for a rename that came out of this nice
          chat is that it would
 > be good to rename the "Eclipse" TLP into "Eclipse SDK"
          TLP, without changing
 > anything else than the label and projects description
          basically.
 >
 > What do the PMC think about that? Any concern? Is it
          something that could be
 > done soon-ish?
 > I've CC'ed the main EMO stakeholders I guessed on this
          topic if you have
 > some more logistical questions.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > --
 > Mickael Istria
 > Eclipse IDE developer, at Red Hat Developers community
 > Elected Committer Representative at the Eclipse
          Foundation board of
 > directors
 >
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