> You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 
  story since you expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream.  
  
  > I suppose for e4 it would make good sense for 
  this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose 
  
  > for bring the issue up here.   I agree 
  natures are quite poorly handled currently.  They're hard or impossible 
  to add 
  > or remove.  
   
  Exactly. I want to make progress on the 3.x stream, 
  but I also want to explore the possibility of making facets be a platform 
  facility for E4. Since the Faceted Project Framework would start out under 
  Technology, it will need to find a more permanent home at some point. A 
  sub-project beneath Eclipse Project or Tools Project are two of the 
  possibilities.
   
  > It will be interesting to see more about the APIs 
  involved...
   
  There is an article on eclipse.org that would be a 
  good way to learn about the API from the perspective of facet author. 
  
   
  http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-BuildingProjectFacets/tutorial.html
   
   
  
  
Konstantin 
  Komissarchik | Consulting 
  Member of Technical Staff
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  From: Ed Merks 
  [mailto:ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:54 
  AM
To: konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx; E4 developer list
Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] 
  Filling the vacuum
 
   
  Kosta,
I would expect a Poisson 
  distribution to produce pretty much the initial positing patterns we see, 
  with the added assumption that once a message is posted, a cascade of response 
  messages typically results.   Hey, isn't poisson the French word for 
  fish?  I wouldn't read in anything fishy beyond that...
You don't 
  really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you expect it ought to be 
  mainstream in the 3.x stream.  I suppose for e4 it would make good sense 
  for this to be an integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose 
  for bring the issue up here.   I agree natures are quite poorly handled 
  currently.  They're hard or impossible to add or remove.  It will be 
  interesting to see more about the APIs 
  involved...
Cheers,
Ed
Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: 
  
  So 
  what happened to all the activity on this list? It went from a regular 20 
  messages a day down to 1 yesterday and none today. Something is fishy here. It 
  sounds like everyone got a day off and I didn’t get the memo. In the interest 
  of filling the empty space and since this was mentioned earlier on this list, 
  I’d like to draw people’s attention to the declaration of the Faceted Project 
  Framework project [1]. The newsgroup [2] is live and is starting to get some 
  traffic. Folks on this mailing list might be particularly interested in [3] 
  where I answer the “why can’t we just extend natures” question. In any case, 
  if you have questions about facets, are wondering if you have formed any 
  misconceptions or already know that you want to get involved, jump on the 
  newsgroup and fire away.
   
  [1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/fproj/
  [2] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.fproj
  [3] http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=4&group=eclipse.fproj#4
   
  Thanks for 
  listening.
   
  
Konstantin 
  Komissarchik | Consulting 
  Member of Technical Staff
Phone: +1 425 201 1795 | Mobile: +1 206 898 0611 
  
Oracle Eclipse 
  Tooling
411 108th Ave NE, Suite 
  2100 | Bellevue, WA 98004 
  
   
   
 
 
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