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RE: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] "Remote workspaces" on	E4Project	Proposal?
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Thanks Kevin.
 
My feeling was just that "Remote Workspaces" was unclear as 
a scope
item of its own. I'm ok with 
understanding it as related to the Client/Server
split.
 
When we start shaping out the Flexible Resources theme more 
clearly,
we might also add some clarifications there as to what 
respect it might
be related or unrelated to remote 
workspaces.
 
I just 
wanted to avoid ending up with some scope written down in 
the
project proposal that nobody really cares for -- I 
do think that the project
proposal should have some relation to the work that 
will eventually
be 
performed because there are owners for items.
 
But it 
looks like my fear is not relevant since you thought about 
Client/Server when writing it 
down.
 
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project 
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
 
 
  
  
Hi Martin, 
As I recall it came out of the client/server split 
  discussions http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/ClientServer.  You've hit on a lot 
  of the issues.  Underlying all this of course is an assumption that with 
  some web based Eclipse UI I *will* still have a workspace on the server (v.s. 
  say SQL queries to a DB).  Its a likely path of investigation. 
  
> The answer to my question above likely plays a role in 
  planning the 
> Flexible 
  Resource theme, and in case there is no clear owner I'd 
> be in favor of getting rid of the Theme 
  from the Scope. 
I thought the 
  purpose Scope section is to provide a shape to the set of issues *someone* 
  might work on in the e4 project.  It was built up from looking through 
  the summit work area notes.  I didn't interpret it as each being a work 
  area with distinct owners. I think that's an organization issue internal to 
  the project. 
I'd be fine with us 
  removing "Remote Workspaces" if we thought it was out of scope, irrelevant, 
  ambiguous, creating too much overlap with an existing project, or just plain 
  wrong because I misinterpreted the topic discussions.  If we remove it 
  from the Scope though we're saying nobody is going to be caring/working on it 
  (not even in the Flexible Resources work), its not our job on e4. If its just 
  about who-does-what, then we should decide that separately. Certainly at 
  present our problem isn't around too many groups wanting to tackle the same 
  problem :) 
Hope the clarifies. 
  Please let me know if you have a different interpretation. 
Regards, 
Kevin 
  
    
    
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              "Remote workspaces" on E4 Project       
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Hi all, 
  
I just looked into the http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Project_Proposal#Scope 
  
and found something titled "Remote 
  workspaces". 
  
Does anybody have any more details about what this might mean, 
  
and who would be caring for it? 
  
It could involve a whole lot 
  of very different subitems, like 
  
    - What about the Workspace when E4 is running as 
    client/server app? 
    
 - What about synchronous access and high latency 
    in EFS-shared remote resources? 
    
 - What about "linking" remote resources rather 
    than "including" them in order to optimize refresh on slow remote parts of 
    the workspace? 
    
 - What about access control and monitoring change 
    in remote workspaces? 
    
 - Should a notion of "Shadowing", or caching 
    remote resources with a local copy be part of the 
  Platform?
 
The answer to 
  my question above likely plays a role in planning the 
Flexible Resource theme, and in case there is 
  no clear owner I'd 
be in 
  favor of getting rid of the Theme from the Scope. 
  
Thanks, 
  
-- 
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical 
  Staff, Wind River 
  
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP 
  PMC Member 
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm 
  
  
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