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RE: [eclipse-dev] Eclipse 3.4 shape


>>Lets call this a community issue, not marketing  J.  

Oh that's such a marketting answer! :)

>>We discussed this on the EPP call this week.  One option was that for Ganymede we leave the default to be download the zip file for the packages and SDK.  For the Fall maintenance release, we
>>convert everything over to the p2 installer.  This would give the installer more time to work out any issues.


This seems like a good strategy.  I was afraid that we might not see p2 downloader in EPP until 3.5.

I'd prefer to see we use the downloader now as the default for the SDK but a reasonable compromise is to ensure that its prominently displayed on the download page so that those who like to ride the wave can pick it up easily.




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I think this may be a "marketing issue" (which I seldom have opinions about :)
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but, I'd think if EPP doesn't have it, the Platform project should not "feature it prominently".
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That'd just set a different expectations, and dilute the meaning of "simultaneous release".
Lets call this a community issue, not marketing  J.  My vote would be that we have a consistent approach across all packages and the SDK.  I think there would be less of chance for causing confusion.  
We discussed this on the EPP call this week.  One option was that for Ganymede we leave the default to be download the zip file for the packages and SDK.  For the Fall maintenance release, we convert everything over to the p2 installer.  This would give the installer more time to work out any issues.
 




From: Kevin McGuire <Kevin_McGuire@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 04/18/2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [eclipse-dev] Eclipse 3.4 shape

 







First of all, I want to express my enthusiasm that we finally have a proper installer.  Its just such the right answer, we really should encourage its use.  Plus, as always, we need to exercise the code in real usage to work out the bugs and gain confidence.  So +1 for it being prominent on the download page.  If the current stability is sufficient (is it?), we should make it the default way of getting your SDK (with the zip available as a legacy path).


Clearly though the work is still relatively new, and I'm concerned about the remaining runway for EPP.  It'd be great to see some EPP exploration right now, but I suspect we're too late for "production use" for them for 3.4; I don't believe they have a ton of manpower and they likely need a few milestones for adoption.  I don't view inconsistency a major problem: the EPP packages are like products, and often a product may decide to delay adoption of a new technology for a release.  But what do you EPP folks think?


Summary:

+1 to installer for SDK prominent on download page

-1 recommned for EPP adoption in 3.4 (but its up to the EPP folks)


Kevin
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