Re: [eclipse-dev] osgi runtime, how to Alternate Runtimes

[Pascal Rapicault <Pascal_Rapicault@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Everything is possible :-) However I've
never tried. You can easily change the classloader parentage so that you
can see the classloader from your webapp. Regarding url handlers, you can
use the regular java mechanism as long as you don't want to uninstall them.
However it is probably simpler to run
a web container on top of osgi (actually osgi has an http server - we don't
have an implementation of it), and deploy your components as bundles so
you can get replaceability (given that the server release the resources
properly).

PaScaL

Dorian Birsan/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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Pascal, is it possible at all to run eclipse as part of a webapp on an
external app server? Are there workarounds for the url stream handlers
and class loaders? 

-Dorian

Pascal Rapicault/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
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This week or last week, I've seen some post on the equinox newsgroup where
people did something similar to what you are trying to achieve (The difference
is that they ran their app server within eclipse). They even offered to
give their code. 

PaScaL

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Hi,

sorry in case i sound a little bit nervous, since weeks i try to find out
how to use the new osgi runtime 
to implement a jmx based runtime so i can use eclipse RCP _inside_ an application
server to access ejbs 
in the same vm. I feel the osgi stuff was very hyped. 

All blog entries in the web say the same, the new osgi runtime is cool
but to less documented. 
Well i'm agree and since weeks there is still one line documentation "In
progress..."
Especially for alternate Runtime there is just nothing then the summaries.
;-o My questions in the 
mailing list or forum of equinox wasn't answered. As well i was reading
the code, but there are for 
example two IPlatformRunnable with different java doc and i found as well
comments like 

// TODO clarify the javadoc below.  Copy the signatures from Platform.
// talk to jeem about the best way to do the triplication

So the code reading confuse me a lot and i'm still haven't any idea how
to do my job.


So please please please is there someone that can give any hint what kind
of Interfaces i have to 
implement to realize an alternative eclipse runtime and how to assign the
classloader from my new 
runtime to a plugin? Has someone just a few lines that give me a starting
point or a documentation 
draft?

In case i couldn't find out how to implement a alternate runtime i have
to start using Swing next week, 
please save me before this pain! 

Thanks!
Stefan



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