Re: [eclipse-dev] Combo packages proposal

[Jeff McAffer <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not sure if we have considered Bit
Torrent.  It looks promising but it too has issues.  For example,
it has to pass a security audit before it can go on our servers.  There
are issues with firewalls/NAT etc.  These are solvable but take time
and energy.  Presumeably it only takes one server to seed the torrent.
 Perhaps a mirror site could sign up to try it?

I was only partially facetious in my
characterization. The point I was trying to make is that making the packages
is not the challenge.  We use that mechanism all the time.  It
is determining what should be in the packages and managing them that is
the issue.  The size issue is also real.  Some teams I know build
similar uber-packages and they are somewhere around 120-150MB per build
and growing weekly.  That is almost double the size of the current
download.  If we assume that some sizeable portion of the download
community would fetch the uber-package rather than the SDK (if that is
not true then why are we talking about this), then we could see a sizeable
increase in bandwidth demand.  We already ship some ridiculous number
of TERA bytes per month!

The best suggestion so far IMHO is to
use some flavour of the Eclipse update technology.  That way people
get only what has actually changed.  It should be faster and more
convenient and also reduce bandwidth and server space requirements.

Jeff

Chris Grindstaff <chris@xxxxxxxxxx>
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02/12/2004 05:20 PM

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To	Jeff McAffer <eclipse-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject	Re: [eclipse-dev] Combo packages proposal

Thursday, February 12, 2004, 1:49:55 PM, you wrote:

JM> Through the wonders of PDE build we could indeed create additional
JM> packagings quite easily.  However, 

JM> - We'd have to define this new "uber-package".  A
list has been suggested
[snip]

I assume someone else has mentioned this at one time or another, but
has bit torrent been considered as a download option to help defray
some of the the bandwidth costs?

Perhaps it isn't as big a deal with the current download sizes, I
assume you were being partly facetious in your description Jeff.

Chris
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Chris Grindstaff | http://gstaff.org

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