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| Re: [ecf-dev] remote services, load balancing | 
Hi Greg,
Greg House wrote:
Hello,
I am moving the discussion 
(http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=528121&th=166590#msg_528121 
<http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=rview&goto=528121&th=166590#msg_528121>) 
to the mailing list as requested by Scott.
Sorry if this e-mail is too long. I will explain the use-case I am 
trying to implement.
Consider two or more OSGi platforms. Each platform exports (remote) 
services that the other platforms can use.
At any time a new platform can appear (or disappear) and the other 
platforms should be able to see and use the new services without any 
additional
configuration or restart.
Because some of the services are expensive and time-consuming 
operations I want to be able to deploy them on
several machines and the requests to these services to be 
load-balanced. In addition, I want to be transparent for a consumer
if a local or a remote service is used. I don't want in my code to 
import any OSGi packages.
For the platform and remote services implementations I am using 
Equinox and ECF.
Now I know that if we remove the load-balancing requirement all this 
can be implemented with (remote) declarative services.
Moreover, the distribution and discovery providers can be 
independently selected.
However, the OSGI specification does not say anything about 
load-balancing, so one has to use some “nonstandard” approach and
stick to specific distribution and discovery providers (and external 
components) – is my understanding correct?
Yes. 
The ECF has a solution to load-balance remote-services with JMS/ActiveMQ.
For my use-cases it is OK to use ECF ActiveMQ provider and maintain 
separate ActiveMQ installations. However, is it possible the
usage of services to be transparent for the consumers? The service 
providers define the properties (local, remote, load-balanced)
of their implementation and the consumers just use the services?
Yes, this is correct.  The load-balanced service usage can be 
transparent for the consumers.
I tried to convert the org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.* 
examples to declarative services and to remove all ECF references from 
the code
but with no success.
What went wrong?   I don't immediately see a reason why this wouldn't 
work...for the loadbalancing consumer/client.
The conversion of org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.server to 
declarative services is straightforward.
About org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.servicehost I created the 
following OSFI-INF/component.xml:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
   <implementation class="null" />
   <property name="service.exported.interfaces" type="String" value="*"/>
   <property name="service.exported.configs" type="String" 
value="ecf.jms.activemq.tcp.manager.lb.svchost"/>
   <property name="org.eclipse.ecf.containerFactoryArgs">
       tcp://192.168.1.1:61616/exampleQueue
       tcp://192.168.1.1:61616/exampleTopic
   </property>
   <property name="ecf.rsvc.proxy" type="String" value="true"/> 
   <service>
      <provide 
interface="org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.IDataProcessor"/>
   </service>
   <reference cardinality="1..1" 
interface="org.eclipse.ecf.core.IContainerFactory" 
name="IContainerFactory" policy="static"/>
</scr:component>
Should I use the service.exported.interfaces property? Is 
<implementation class="null" /> correct?
I would have to check the ds spec, but no, I don't think that 'null' is 
allowable for the implementation class.
The main problem I have is with 
org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.consumer.
I created the following OSGI-INF/component.xml file:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
   <implementation 
class="org.eclipse.ecf.internal.examples.loadbalancing.consumer.DataProcessorConsumerApplicationDS"/>
   <reference bind="doTests" cardinality="0..n" 
interface="org.eclipse.ecf.examples.loadbalancing.IDataProcessor" 
name="IDataProcessor" policy="dynamic"/>
</scr:component>
Is this somehow related to DefaultProxyContainerFinder and should I 
specify “ecf.jms.activemq.tcp.client” in the config file?
I first have to ask whether you  are using the latest from HEAD or ECF 
3.2.  The reason I have to ask is that *since* 3.2 release the policy 
for handling automatic creation of containers in 
DefaultProxyContainerFinder has changed as per this bug:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=303979
Now (in HEAD/3.3/Helios), the default is to automatically create a 
container instance when discovered.
*BUT*...even if you are using HEAD....I think that there could be a bug 
in the ActiveMQ/JMS provider.  Specifically, when containers are 
discovered, and the DefaultProxyContainerFinder is consulted to find a 
suitable container, part of what the DefaultProxyContainerFinder does 
(using the auto create option that was changed in 303979) is that it 
gets the meta-data from the discovery and looks for a *compatible* 
container type.  By 'looks', I mean that it calls this method on 
container instantiatiors:
org.eclipse.ecf.core.provider.IRemoteServiceContainerInstantiator.getImportedConfigs(ContainerTypeDescription, 
String[])
And if the provider on the consumer responds with a non-null String 
array, then it has a match.
But it is quite possible that the JMS/ActiveMQ provider implementation 
of the getImportedConfigs method does not match with the load balancing 
container types (as these are 'special'), returns null, and the client 
container is never created/found by the DefaultProxyContainerFinder on 
the consumer.   Does this fit with what you are seeing?   BTW...what 
discovery mechanism are you using?  And do you have evidence that it is 
working properly on your net?
I will be happy to look into this later today/Monday and fix it if 
necessary, but would it be possible to get your declarative services 
versions of the load balancing example so that I can test?  Would you 
possibly be willing to contribute these projects as ECF examples?
How is "cardinality" handled in the case of load-balanced service?
The cardinality is handled as with a 'normal' declarative service...i.e. 
the cardinality will determine whether the component is activated if the 
given reference is present (1...n) or not (0...n).
I would appreciate any help or directions how to proceed.
I think the bug with the JMS/ActiveMQ provider I described above *may* 
be the issue.  If you can help me diagnose and test we should get it 
going in short order.
More important, is my use-case achievable with Equinox and ECF?
Yes, it is.
Scott