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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] CodeEnvy continues to use deceptive wording that's harmful to Eclipse

Hi All,

I have not a very strong opinion on this wording, but it strikes me that their wording is unnecessarily biasing. "Next-generation" does imply that it's a newer and better variant of something that's older and less good. I would appreciate if they just tried to avoid this connotation and rather focused on the functional differences. I'm also not a good expert of what their different functionality actually is, but wouldn't it be possible to tag it "Eclipse Remote IDE", or "Eclipse Web IDE", or whatever?! That would definitely minimize confusion of the user community and reduce bad thoughts among our traditional IDE developers and contributors.

Cheers
/Eike

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Am 29.06.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik:

I was just reading the latest Microsoft/RedHat/Codenvy press release and came across the problematic wording that we’ve seen before.

/Microsoft Visual Studio Code and *Eclipse Che, the next-generation Eclipse IDE*, have added support for the protocol./

https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-codenvy-and-microsoft-collaborate-language-server-protocol

I think it’s great that Eclipse Foundation is getting more technologically diverse, but I find it very concerning that Eclipse Foundation is allowing Codenvy/Che to continue to use wording like this. Current Eclipse users will read this statement as an official statement of the roadmap for the desktop Eclipse IDE or whatever the hell we are supposed to call it now that Eclipse IDE doesn’t mean anything, apparently.

I understand why Codenvy would use wording like this as it helps them to promote Che. What I don’t understand is why Eclipse Foundation, through inaction, is allowing this to continue.

Thanks,

- Konstantin



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