Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Europa Fall Maintenance Maintenance

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

-1

Maybe I'm not sure what we're voting
on, but, if it is a policy of routine "continuous maintenance"
then no, I don't think we should. 
I think there are some cases that deserve
a critical/urgent update (for example, the platform's recent issue with
permgen settings,
which sort of has to be installed "from
the beginning") 
but otherwise, I think that fixes should
only be provided from each project's own update site. That's the design.


One of the original justifications for
the coordinated releases was that it was hard for users to get started,
since stuff 
came from all over, and it was hard
to get the right versions installed, etc. But ... once they do get it all
installed, then 
is relatively easy for users to update.


And, the reason I'm voting -1 instead
of just 0 is that "Europa" to me means it's at least had some
degree of cross-project 
testing ... and, I know, we barely do
that even for releases ... but I don't think many of us can sign up for
extra testing. 

So, if we're voting on just the platform's
updates, then I'd vote +1. And, if people want to update things this one
time only 
(being easier than backing out stuff)
then that's fine, +1, too .... but, I'd prefer not to have a policy of
doing it, which is what my -1 is for. 



> P.S. The lack of a green build
is that annoying siteArchiver/update 
> manager bug that corrupts pack200 files. The non-packed files seem
> good and (when I get a moment) I'm working on the work-around temp
fix.

Don't forget, one option is just not
to provide pack200 files, right? And 
leave it to projects to fix this bug?

Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Europa Project Leads,
Please vote, on this mailing list, whether we should be updating the Europa
Update Site and the Europa download site with the re-re-spin. It appears
that individual projects have decided to update their bits (that's fine)
and the Europa download packages are being updated (did we agree to that?),
so perhaps we'd all better just vote +1 on this re-re-spin for the Europa
Fall Maintenance to be moved to be the main Europa update site.

I'll take three or more +1s and no -1s by Friday morning as a go.
@ALL: How do we proceed with the Europa Update Site
content? From my point of 
view there is too much confusion, no clear decision, no schedule, and no
green build at all. 
P.S. The lack of a green build is that annoying siteArchiver/update
manager bug that corrupts pack200 files. The non-packed files seem good
and (when I get a moment) I'm working on the work-around temp fix.
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