In my understanding, the “simultaneous”
in “simultaneous release of 10 projects” referred to both time and
space:
- Temporal
co-locality: We go out on the same day.
- Spatial
co-locality: A user can get the “the bundle” without having to
go to 10 different sites, and without 10x the work of downloading the
platform alone.
We can discuss where to set the bar on
ease of use and quality of the spatial portion of our simultaneous ship goal; I
would hope that at least 80% of users who attempt to download Callisto succeed
on their first attempt.
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[mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thessin, Tyler
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11:40 AM
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Shouldn’t our target user include
both existing users already familiar with Eclipse as well as newbies to
help continue driving increased adoption? I agree all aspects of driving
for a “single integrated product” is not a committed goal for
Callisto (but perhaps should be for our next coordinated effort –
we’ve certainly discussed such in the Planning Council long enough), but
a Callisto that only experienced Eclipse experts can weed their way through
seems to fall short of our committed goal (“simultaneously release ten
projects” is probably an understatement of our intent).
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Ed,
Thanks (psst, enter bugs, write them well, win some prizes - so far there are
zero entries in the "greatbugs" contest so it should be easy to win).
And while I agree that we can make it easier to install/experience, I think
this sentence in your email is the key point:
Just try walking through this and pretend
you're not an expert and you'll run into many of the same problems. Or watch
someone else try to use it.
What level of user are we targetting? I think we are
targetting someone with substantially more Eclipse experience than you think we
are targetting. The goal of Callisto is fairly simple: to simultaneously
release ten projects. We are not trying (in the Callisto time frame) to make a
single integrated product out of the projects. Such an integration is a great
goal and perhaps the goal that we will adopt in the next integrated release,
but (so far) it is not a goal for this effort.
This "what is our target user" is a good point to discuss - perhaps I
am mistaken about the Callisto teams' goals...