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Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011
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On my side I will be away on
travel.
Marc Khouzam and others from Ericsson will most likely
be also traveling, he will confirm when he is back from
vacation.
I signed up but I don't yet know if I have travel
approved.
===========================
Chris Recoskie
Team Lead,
IBM CDT and RDT
IBM Toronto
Alena
Laskavaia ---08/05/2011 11:31:42 PM---There is only 10 ppl signed up, are we
still doing it? Can people make it on these dates below?
From: |
Alena Laskavaia
<elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx> |
To: |
"CDT General developers list."
<cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> |
Date: |
08/05/2011 11:31 PM |
Subject: |
Re: [cdt-dev] Summit 2011 |
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cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx |
There is only 10 ppl signed up, are we still doing it? Can
people make
it on these dates below?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:56
AM, Alena Laskavaia
<elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We
booked Sept 21-23 (Wed-Fri)
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:40 AM,
Alena Laskavaia
> <elaskavaia.cdt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
The largest room I can book in RIM is for 25 people. Assuming this
>>
would be in Ottawa, Mid-End September can you please update wiki
page
>> to see would go, so I can count.
>>
>> On
Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Marc Khouzam
>>
<marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Thanks Elena, that
would be great.
>>>
>>>> -----Original
Message-----
>>>> From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Alena Laskavaia
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011
11:26 AM
>>>> To: CDT General developers
list.
>>>> Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>>
>>>> I will talk to RIM about
face-to-face in September (Ottawa), if
>>>> anybody is still
interested
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at
9:49 AM, Marc Khouzam
>>>> <marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>>> > So we all agree that we need two
things:
>>>> > 1- some type of planning meeting in
September
>>>> > 2- a face-to-face meeting at some
point
>>>> >
>>>> > Up to now, no one has
stepped-up to organize a face-to-face
>>>> in September
(or
>>>> > another time).
>>>> > (Doing it
at Ericsson was a lot of work for me last year so
>>>> I like
the
>>>> > EclipseCon idea better).
>>>> >
Unless Chris thinks it can be done at IBM...
>>>>
>
>>>> > So I suggest we try to plan the face-to-face for
EclipseCon
>>>> or else we might
>>>> > not
have a face-to-face
>>>> > at all. Note that the OSGi
DevCon has been doing the same
>>>> for some
time.
>>>> >
>>>> > Last year, the
multi-core debug meeting was a big success.
>>>> However,
having
>>>> > only one timeslot
>>>> >
left me with the feeling of unfinished business. I
think
>>>> we should plan for
>>>> > two days
and have a
>>>> > detailed agenda, people can then decide if
they want stay
>>>> for the full two
>>>> >
days or not.
>>>> >
>>>> > Sunday-Monday
is the option that allows us to be in the best shape.
>>>> >
Thursday-Friday avoids having to work on the weekend.
>>>> >
Sunday-Friday does not overlap with EclipseCon, but will
be
>>>> exhausting
>>>> > We can try to
figure out what the community likes best on the wiki.
>>>>
>
>>>> > The nice thing about all this is that it is very
low
>>>> risk/effort. It is
>>>> >
almost a freebie with EclipseCon.
>>>> >
>>>>
> What is somewhat urgent is knowing which days we could
get
>>>> a big enough room
>>>> > at
EclipseCon.
>>>> > It does not matter which days we prefer
if we can't get a
>>>> room (and a
>>>> >
projector) for those days.
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug, as the puppet master this year :-) can you tell us
>>>>
which days would be
>>>> > best for a room (or
two)?
>>>> > I can then update the wiki to see what the
community
>>>> response will be.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Thanks
>>>>
>
>>>> > Marc
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>> >
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:46 PM
>>>> > To: CDT General
developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Sure, we can offer up
the options.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > I plan on being very
busy at EclipseCon, though, and will
>>>> not attend
full
>>>> > day sessions for CDT. But you don't need me
there for the
>>>> whole thing.
>>>> >
Everything I need to participate in will happen in
September.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:32 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > I agree that we might be tired on Friday,
however people
>>>> might prefer to do
>>>> >
that instead of having a second trip.
>>>>
>
>>>> > We can also investigate other options like
Sun-Mon (like
>>>> the IBM Rational
>>>> >
conf :-).
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe we can put the
different options (Thu-Fri, Sun-Mon,
>>>> Sun and
Thu) on
>>>> > the wiki and see what the developers
prefer.
>>>> >
>>>> > The last
summit was 3 days and we had to close the
>>>>
registration because too
>>>> > many people wanted to
come, we will have plenty of things
>>>> to discuss
for at
>>>> > least 2 days.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Having just a few hours doesn't seem to
be enough.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>> >
>>>>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>> >
Sent: 18-Jul-11 15:56
>>>> > To: CDT General developers
list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > I dunno, I still have
the mental scars from our last
>>>> attempt at a
EcilpseCon
>>>> > Friday meeting (way burned out by
then).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > But I will have a pretty big room if tradition
holds and
>>>> will throw a CDT
>>>> > party
some time during the week J.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Marc Khouzam
>>>> >
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:30 PM
>>>> > To: 'CDT General
developers list.'
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > The idea of an eSummit in September is probably
the easiest
>>>> way to get the
>>>> > plan
done for Juno and get things started.
>>>>
>
>>>> > I like that. But I also agree that the
face-to-face part
>>>> is very valuable.
>>>>
> So, the idea of having the same type of
>>>>
>
>>>> > meeting as last year, but co-located with
EclipseCon,
>>>> sounds great to me.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> From what we saw in previous years, we need enough time
to
>>>> discuss the many
>>>> > different
topics, and to allow
>>>> >
>>>> > people
to find their common interests and see how they can
>>>>
collaborate
>>>> > together. And we also
need
>>>> >
>>>> > time for deep
dives such as multi-core, build, codan, etc.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Co-locating a full CDT Summit with EclipseCon
>>>>
(Thursday/Friday) only extends
>>>> > the trip by one day,
and we get the full
>>>> >
>>>> > benefit
of a face-face event. And organization will be
>>>> much
easier :-) It
>>>> > may also help some people justify
going to
>>>> >
>>>> > EclipseCon as a
two-in-one trip.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > So, couldn't we plan a
two-day face-to-face CDT Summit on
>>>> the Thursday
and
>>>> > Friday of EclipseCon?
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Thanks
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Marc
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>> >
>>>>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>> >
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
>>>> > To: CDT General
developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, I wasn't talking
about replacing the face to face,
>>>> just having
that
>>>> > component at EclipseCon. I tend to meet more new
community
>>>> members at
>>>> > EclipseCon
than the CDT Summit anyway.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > We do need to have a
plan in place by the end of September
>>>> (and the
Eclipse
>>>> > board would actually prefer we have it
earlier, but we get
>>>> some leeway
>>>> >
there), and should have interactive meetings on the issues
>>>>
we need to
>>>> > address and new features that feed into
that plan. And it's
>>>> pretty much a
>>>> >
given now that not every committer is able to make a
summit
>>>> anyway, I think
>>>> > an eSummit
would fill our needs. And next year, if someone
>>>> wants to
hold it
>>>> > and organize early, we can try again at a
full summit.
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > :D
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Marc-Andre Laperle
>>>>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:45 PM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > March 26-29 is really
late in the development cycle. To me,
>>>> the
summit
>>>> > should be about planning Juno, discussing
architecture,
>>>> potential solutions
>>>> >
to hard problems we want fixed in Juno.
>>>>
>
>>>> > On 11-07-18 2:22 PM, Dominique Toupin
wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Replacing a 3
days face to face summit by an online meeting
>>>> will not
benefit
>>>> > the community, I think its very good if we
can keep the
>>>> face to face event.
>>>>
>
>>>> > Many people dial-in but they typically work
on something
>>>> else, we do not
>>>> > have
the evening/lunch event when people can discuss further,
etc.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Looking at other open source
projects/foundations they do a lot of
>>>> > co-located
events (e.g LinuxCon and Tracing Summit), I had
>>>> a quick
chat with
>>>> > Ian from the Eclipse Foundation, he
thinks it's a good idea
>>>> to co-locate
the
>>>> > summit with EclipseCon, possibly Thursday/Friday
as long as
>>>> we plan ahead to
>>>> >
ensure we have a conf room available at
>>>>
http://reston.hyatt.com (as
program
>>>> > chair, I am sure you can make it
happen).
>>>> >
>>>> > Co-locating with
EclipseCon has a few benefits:
>>>> >
>>>>
> - Less travel (EclipseCon + Summit same
place/date)
>>>> >
>>>> > - No
sponsors/funding to find
>>>> >
>>>> >
- No local logistics (room, special events, lunch, dinner,
etc.)
>>>> >
>>>> > - more
developers are likely to come
>>>>
>
>>>> > - Reston is 8.5 hours drive from
Toronto
>>>> >
>>>> > -
etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > The only down side I
see is it's not a good timing to plan
>>>> for the
next
>>>> > release so we could do as you suggested i.e. an
online
>>>> meeting in September
>>>> >
but hopefully a short one maybe half a day to start
and
>>>> then we can see if
>>>> > we need
extra ones for specific topics e.g. multi-core debug.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Co-locating with EclipseCon seems quite future proof to
me,
>>>> what do you
>>>> >
think?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
________________________________
>>>> >
>>>>
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>> >
Sent: 18-Jul-11 11:24
>>>> > To: CDT General developers
list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree. The time is
pretty short to organize a full blown summit in
>>>> >
September. But, we still need to have planning meetings to
>>>>
set the agenda
>>>> > for CDT in Juno.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> What I'd like to propose is an eSummit instead using
a
>>>> conference bridge and
>>>> > Webex. I
was thinking of a block of four hours running
>>>> noon-3
Ottawa time
>>>> > (give or take), which allows for evening
in Europe and morning in
>>>> > California. We could start
with two days like that and
>>>> expand if
needed.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > I would then propose that we have a CDT
get-together at
>>>> EclipseCon next
>>>> >
March. We had a really nice multi-core meeting last year
>>>>
and could do that
>>>> > for CDT in general. We could do it
for a couple of hours
>>>> and be separate
>>>>
> from the BOF which is a more open meeting.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> What do you think?
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Dominique Toupin
>>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:06 AM
>>>> > To: CDT
General developers list.
>>>> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev]
Summit 2011
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi
Doug,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > It's not easy to plan/organize the CDT summit in
the middle
>>>> of summer for a
>>>>
> date in Sept/Oct:
>>>> >
>>>> >
- many people are on vacation, it's hard to
get developers
>>>> to register;
>>>>
>
>>>> > - organizing the logistic in the middle of
summer was not
>>>> easy for us last
>>>>
> year again because of many people on vacations and it
was
>>>> hard to get big
>>>> > conf room for
Sept;
>>>> >
>>>> > - in July
many people are already booked for business trips in
the
>>>> > fall e.g. myself, Elena, Marc, etc. if
know more in
>>>> advanced it will be
>>>> >
easier to plan around the summit date;
>>>>
>
>>>> > - fall is a busy time of the year for many
people,
>>>> May/June is the Eclipse
>>>> >
release crunch and March is EclipseCon...;
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> To get more developers to join the summit we
could either:
>>>> >
>>>> > -
do the plan/organization after the Eclipse release and
>>>>
held the summit in
>>>> > Dec/Jan
>>>>
>
>>>> > - do the plan/org in May and
held the summit in Sept/Oct
>>>> >
>>>> >
- looking back at last March EclipseCon we could
>>>>
investigate if we can do
>>>> > it Thursday and
Friday
>>>> > (http://www.eclipsecon.org/2011/program/?programdate=2011-03-24)
>>>>
>
>>>> > - we could even investigate if we can do
it together with
>>>> the GCC summit
>>>> >
(http://www.gccsummit.org)
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Best Regards,
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
Dominique
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> ________________________________
>>>>
>
>>>> > From:
cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>>> > Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
>>>> >
Sent: 8-Jul-11 14:20
>>>> > To:
cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > Subject: [cdt-dev] Summit
2011
>>>> >
>>>> > Hey
gang,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > Just a reminder to sign up for CDT Summit 2011
at
>>>> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/summitfall2011.
Notice a few
>>>> signed up already.
>>>> >
The more that show interest, the more we'll realize we
>>>>
really need to have
>>>> > one again J.
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
> Cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> >
Doug.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> >
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