Re: [atf-dev] Proposed reorg of the Xulrunner extension point and the wa

[Robert Goodman <goodmanr@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Philippe

Here are my initial comments. 

1. Why is this XULRunner extension point
still in ATF? This is something that really should be in the platform.
I think that we should get the platform team involved. I understand that
it is easier and faster to keep it in the ATF family, but ATF doesn't own
the embedded XULRunner browser anymore. 

2. Not having org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core
dependent on org.eclipse.core. The whole idea ATF core plugin was to provide
base classes that all the other plugins need. As ATF moves forward I can
see org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core becoming more dependent on ATF code
plugin. I think that two different goals are being intermixed in one document.


a) A XULRunner plugin that is independent
of ATF. I think that this support should be in the platform. 

b) Adoptors want to use org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core
independent of the rest of ATF. Why would anybody want to do this? We have
had a number of request to separate out functionality in ATF. People wanted
the embedded XULRunner browser support independent of the rest of ATF,
so we worked with the platform team to move it into SWT. A number of ATF
adopters requested that the HTTP server support be moved into WST, which
was done for WTP 2.0. We had request for a version of ATF that ran on WST
without JST, which was done in the latest milestone. There have even been
requests for a version of ATF that is didn't require WTP. Nobody has requested
to be able use eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core independent of the rest of
ATF. I can image that someone may want to use the Browser Tools independent
of the rest of ATF and WTP (org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.core and org.eclipse.atf.mozilla.ide.ui).
If that is the real requirement, then we should document that requirement
and we can have a separate discussion on that topic. 

I think that this discussion needs to
be opened up to a larger audience than just ATF dev list, since it efforts
effects people outside of the ATF community. While working with the large
eclipse community, we may need to come up with some interim solution. 

   Thanks
     Bob



Robert Goodman
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All:
Please read that proposal and provide comment here in the list.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/ATF/Mozilla
I will be committing code in a  branch for everyone to review.
Cordially
--
Cheers
Philippe
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