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| Re: [wtp-pmc] EclipseCon Tutorial Series | 
My approach would be to use presentation only to introduce the topic (1-3 slides) then a walk through with the tools to demo, followed by lab style segments to help participants complete the examples.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Carver 
<dcarver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Quick question, what form will these tutorials take?  Are they hands on using the tools tutorials (more user oriented), or are they tutorials on extending and using the frameworks.
The later will take more devoted time than the former to be useful.   I've already submitted a 2hr tutorial proposal for the XSL component and going through a hands on exercise.   Also I believe regardless of format, these need to be hands on tutorials.   Too many times in the past our "tutorials" really have been nothing more than extended long talks.
I know it is something the program committee is really taking a look at this year.
Dave
Naci Dai wrote:
Thanks to all that responded.  I will propose the following topics for consolidated long tutorial:
      1) Web Tools, XML and XSL
             Editors
             Servers/Runtimes
             XML, XSD, XSL, XPath and Xquery
      2) Java Web Applications, JSF
             Application Servers and Facets
             Web Applications
             JSF
      3) Java Persistence, Components and Services
             JPA and EclipseLink
             EJB3 and JavaEE Tooling
             Web Services
I also suggest using the RSS example that we used for the article series to demonstrate the examples.  How does this sound?
 
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Neil Hauge <
neil.hauge@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
neil.hauge@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
    Hi Naci,
    Sorry for the late response, but we (Dali) are interested in
    participating in some type of joint tutorial.  That would be great
    if you could take the lead and put something together.  We
    discussed on the call today that perhaps we could have some sort
    of consolidated WTP tutorial to try and increase audience
    interest.  Just a thought anyway.
    Neil
    Naci Dai wrote:
    Hi Everyone,
    I had something wrong with my mic today,  I could hear but no one
    could hear me.  Any thoughts on proposing a joint tutorial?
     Should I take the lead to put together one?
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