Re: [wtp-pmc] Where is the release schedule posted?

[John Lanuti <jlanuti@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with this suggestion.  The
dates are not likely to change at all.  FWIW, I get asked when does
such and such WTP release ALL the time.

Thanks,

John Lanuti
IBM Web Tools Platform Technical Lead, IBM Rational
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC
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Lawrence Mandel <lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject	Re: [wtp-pmc] Where is the release schedule posted?

These dates are pretty unlikely to change, right? Can we duplicate the
information on a WTP release plan page? I'd like to see updating this information
become part of the new release definition process.

I think any visitor to the WTP site should be able to easily see the scheduled
release dates of the upcoming WTP releases. 

Lawrence Mandel

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"Tim Wagner" <timawagner@xxxxxxxxx>
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http://www.eclipse.org/projects/timeline/
  
AFAIK, this is still the "correct" way to publish the information.
However, nothing would preclude us from having a "Watch out for 1.5.3
shipping with Callisto Winter Update on February 16th, 2007" banner
on our homepage in addition, and that might be a good idea. We can also
push info out via the news feed in advance (we usually do it only at/after
the ship). 
  
I would (and have) argued that www.eclipse.org/projects
does not do a good job of exposing the Callisto/Europa release schedule
to the world, and makes it unnecessarily hard to locate that critical information;
this would be a great place for people to find the overarching schedule
and the mapping into version numbers for the individual projects. 
  
The Callisto winter schedule can be found at http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Callisto_Coordinated_Maintenance#When.3F
but you'd have to be a serious insider to know that. I wish the EMO would
make this more discoverable as well. 

On 1/25/07, Lawrence Mandel <lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote: 

I want to bring an issue related to the transparency of WTP release plans
to the attention of the PMC. 

I was recently asked on what date WTP 1.5.3 will be released. The only
resource I could find with an answer is [1]. This link was not easily found
through the website. Furthermore, the milestone plan index [2] and milestone
plan overview [3] for WTP 1.5.x are out of date and there are no links
to similar documents for WTP 2.0. 

I think we need to do a better job of publicizing our release plans to
the community at large. 

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Release_1.5.x_Maintenance_Plan_and_Policies
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.5/milestone-plan-index.html
[3] http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.5/reports/report-milestone-overview.html

Thanks, 

Lawrence Mandel

Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
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