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[wtp-pmc] Agenda for WT PPMC October 17, 2006 telecon

Call info:

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Call Time: 7am PDT / 10am PDT



  • Community [Tim]
    • Eclipse Summit Europe report
    • EclipseCon update
      • Two tutorial proposals entered to date
        • Extending the Ajax Toolkit Framework for your _javascript_ framework (Philippe Ombredanne)
        • Extending the Web Tools Platform (Naci)
        • I’m not sure how to make the EclipseZilla search produce only our papers, but if you use this query, you can at least see all submissions sorted by assignee and then just scroll down to the relevant section:
  • Process issues [Tim]
  • Requirements and 2.0 Planning
  • 1.5.2 and 2.0 Status [David]
    • 1.5.2 shutdown sequence and status
    • 2.0 / Europa status
  • Visual editor component [Jean[
    • Initial IP review update (see attached). Looks like we’re making progress here.
    • Revisit staffing resources and feature incubation plan
  • ATF [Robert]
  • Dali/JPA [Neil]
  • JSF [Raghu]


From: Jean.Choi@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:49 PM
To: Janet Campbell
Cc: jchoi@xxxxxxxxxx; 'Jihong Yang'; 'Raghu Srinivasan'; Tim Wagner
Subject: Re: JSF Visual Page Designer

Hi Janet,

Thanks for reviewing the code. Please see <jchoi> inline for my answers to your questions.


Jean L. Choi
Sybase, Inc.
Office: + 1 925-236-6265
Mobile: +1 925-918-3863

"Janet Campbell" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>

10/16/2006 06:40 AM

<jchoi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Raghu Srinivasan'" <raghunathan.srinivasan@xxxxxxxxxx>
"'Tim Wagner'" <twagner@xxxxxxx>, "'Jihong Yang'" <jihong.yang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
JSF Visual Page Designer

In reviewing the JSF Visual Page Designer, we found the following references that we would like further clarification on:
1)  “Confidential Property of Sybase, Inc. (c) Copyright Sybase, Inc. 2004-2006.”
I suspect that the reference to “confidential property” was inadvertently included.  Can you clarify?
This was a mistake.  It should be removed.  We will remove this Copyright section and reupload to bugzilla.
2)  “Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
 SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.”
While we did further research to determine what license may apply to this file, we were unable to definitively determine the applicable license.  As there are restrictive licenses that sometimes apply to these files, we need to investigate further.  Can you assist?

We don't have to include these files to the contribution.  We don't need these files for compilation.  These files are used during runtime only.  We can direct the users to download those files from Sun during runtime.  We will remove them from the contribution.
3)  We identified a number of code matches to other Open Source Projects.  Please let us know if in fact you are using code from these projects.  While the use may not be problematic in some instances (e.g. where the license is compatible) provided we appropriately identify the associated license, we will need to investigate further to confirm this.
a)  The following file:  org.eclipse.jst.pagedesigner/src/org/eclipse/jst/pagedesigner/editors/palette/ appeared to partially match the FlowtificX project (1/2 the code appeared to match).   Can you confirm whether code from another open source project was used and if so, the origin of the code (so that we can determine the license that applies and our ability to use the code).

We didn't copy from the FlowtificX project.  The code was from one of the example package provided by the GEF framework, the org.eclipse.gef.example.shapes package.  From the file.
b)  The following file:  org.eclipse.jst.pagedesigner/src/org/eclipse/jst/pagedesigner/meta/internal/ appears to partially match (40 lines out of 100) to the file in Java JDK project of Sun Corp under Sun J2RE Binary Code License v. 1.4.2_x.  Can you confirm whether in fact this code was used and if so, the source. The license and copyright notice of the detected file as below:
“ * Copyright 2003 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved.
 * SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms.
 * (C) Copyright Taligent, Inc. 1996, 1997 - All Rights Reserved
 * (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1996 - 1999 - All Rights Reserved
 * The original version of this source code and documentation
 * is copyrighted and owned by Taligent, Inc., a wholly-owned
 * subsidiary of IBM. These materials are provided under terms
 * of a License Agreement between Taligent and Sun. This technology
 * is protected by multiple US and International patents.
 * This notice and attribution to Taligent may not be removed.
 * Taligent is a registered trademark of Taligent, Inc.”

<jchoi>  Since we have to use one of the functions in the ResourceBundle class in JDK, but it is a private method, so we used this code.  We will rewrite the file and resubmit to bugzilla.
c)  The following file:  org.eclipse.jst.pagedesigner/src/org/eclipse/jst/pagedesigner/utils/ appears to partially match (80 lines out of 110) to the file of Java JDK project of Sun Corp. under Sun J2RE Binary Code License v. 1.4.2_x.  Can you confirm if this code is being used?

<jchoi>  This file was not being used.  It was some temporary code we wrote for testing purpose.  We can remove this file from the contribution.
d)  The following file:  org.eclipse.jst.pagedesigner.jsp.core/src/org/eclipse/jst/pagedesigner/jsp/core/ appears to partially match (84 lines out of 88) the file of GCJ Builder project (  Can you confirm if code is being used from this project?

No. The code is not being used from the GCJ Builder project.  It was automatically generated by the Eclipse plugin framework when we create this plugin.
e)  The following file:  org.eclipse.jst.pagedesigner.common/src/org/eclipse/jst/pagedesigner/common/utils/ appears to partially match (120 out of 180 lines) Apache-XML Xml Security project ( under Apache 1.1 license.  Can you confirm if code is being used from this project?

This file was not being used.  We can remove it from the contribution.
Janet Campbell
Legal Counsel & Manager, Intellectual Property
Eclipse Foundation Inc.
Phone:  (613) 224-9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
Fax:  (613) 224-5172
Email:  janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
Alternate email:  janet@xxxxxxxxxxx

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