Roel,
The WTP PMC discussed Oracle’s JSF
proposal in our conference call this morning, and would like to add our support
for proceeding with this proposal as a new component within JST, pending EMO
approval. If you haven’t do so already, I encourage you to have an Oracle
representative participate on the WTP requirements group conference calls to
ensure that you have input into the current planning cycle.
Looking forward to working with you on an
exciting new addition to WTP,
Tim
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Senior Manager for Open Source IDE and Language Tools
Phone: 206.926.2945
Tim.Wagner@xxxxxxx
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BEA Systems,
Inc.
999 North Northlake Way
Suite 100
Seattle, WA 98103
Fax:
206.675.8250
www.bea.com
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Weblogic Workshop: Leading edge
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From: Roel Stalman [mailto:roel.stalman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:47 PM
To: Arthur Ryman
Cc: Jochen Krause; David M
Williams; cney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Tim
Wagner; Brian Fry
Subject: Re: Eclipse Web Tools
Project
Arthur,
Here is a draft of our JSF proposal. I've also sent it to Bjorn. Please let us
know your feedback, so that we can address your comments and then formally
submit it before the end of the month.
I will actually be out of the office for two weeks, so please send your
feedback to Brian Fry (cc-ed) and myself. He will be driving this in my
absence.
Thanks,
-Roel.
Arthur Ryman wrote:
Roel,
On
Thursday I am available 12:30-2pm and 4-6pm EST.
Jochen
Krause wants to join and is available 12:30-1pm so let's do the call 12:30pm -
1:30pm Thursday.
Here
is my conference number: Toll-free Dial-in number: 1 866-245-5059
# 8105517
Arthur
Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
Thanks Arthur, that sounds good. Any time this Thursday would be great if it
works for you. I can also move things around on other days this week if that's
better.
-Roel.
Arthur Ryman wrote:
Roel,
I think I speak for the whole PMC when I say that we would welcome formal
Oracle presence in our project. It is one of our goals to become the common
platform for all J2EE tool vendors, so Oracle's participation is a key step in
that direction.
I think it would be useful to have a call before you submitted your proposal so
we can brief you about WTP and so you can show good support from us. Let me
know when you're ready.
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
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Roel Stalman <roel.stalman@xxxxxxxxxx>
05/06/2005 08:51 PM
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Arthur,
We are preparing for a JSF tooling proposal. We want to propose a JSF
subproject that would live in the WTP project. For us this means learning more
about Eclipse and WTP, as well as formulating such a proposal. We plan to have
the proposal (in draft) in the next two weeks. We can have a brief call next
week to discuss, or you can review the draft proposal when we have that.
Thanks,
-Roel.
Arthur Ryman wrote:
Roel,
How are you progressing? When would you like to talk?
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
Arthur,
We started to look into the server deployment part; thanks for the JBoss
pointer.
For JSF tooling we are researching the existing WTP and Eclipse projects to see
what could be leveraged. I'd like a bit more time so that we are more educated
when we talk. Could we sync up towards the end of next week?
Thanks,
-Roel.
Arthur Ryman wrote:
Roel,
This week got filled up fast. It may be hard to get everyone together quickly.
Would you like to call me on Monday to discuss JSF? I'm available bewteen 11am
and 2pm. Let me know your preference. I'll use my conference call line in case
others can join.
WTP has no plans for a visual JSP editor, although we are open to
contributions.
Concerning deployment from WTP to Oracle, you need to develop an adapter that
plugs into our Server API. WTP currently hosts an adapter for JBoss which might
be a good example for you. We can also discuss that on the call.
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
Sorry if you receive this email twice, my first email bounced with some issues.
-Roel.
Roel Stalman wrote:
Mike, thanks for the introductions.
Arthur, Tim, Naci,
Oracle is interested in developing JSF tooling in Eclipse. This could be a
separate project or (if we can work out some arrangement) part of WTP. It
definitely makes sense to leverage what's already available in Eclipse and/or
WTP, such as the JSP source editor. Is someone in WTP already working on a
visual JSP editor? If so, it makes sense to base the JSF editor on that. JSF
navigation is another area that we could look at.
Could we set up some time later this week to discuss this in a concall? Please
let me know what times work for you. I can be flexible any time this week
except Thursday 10-noon.
On a separate note, I'd also like to discuss deployment from WTP to Oracle's
app server. I'm guessing we will have to step in and develop that... Is that
Naci's area? I have some questions about JSR 77 and 88 support in WTP.
Thanks,
-Roel.
Arthur Ryman wrote:
Mike,
JSF will be in scope very soon, so we should definitely start the discussion
with Oracle on this proposal. The public review for JSR 252 ends in May, at
which point JSF will be a standard. It will then be included in some J2EE
release.
WTP has a JSP source editor, and this should be the basis for JSF source
editing. There is also an opportunity to create a visual JSF editor.
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
All,
Oracle has expressed an interest in starting a JSF
tooling project at
Eclipse and would like to have a chat regarding
how it would interact with
WTP. I have explained to them that it is out of
scope for WTP. But there are
clearly closely aligned interests.
Mike Milinkovich
Executive Director,
Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
Office: 613-224-9461 x228
Cell: 613-220-3223
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christophe Job [mailto:christophe.job@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: April 26, 2005 10:06 AM
> To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Roel Stalman
> Subject: RE: Eclipse Web Tools Project
>
> Mike, you said you had a couple of contacts
you could give us.
> Would you mind sending something our way, I'd
like to start
> engaging on the Faces Design Time discussion.
> Thx, Christophe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roel Stalman [mailto:roel.stalman@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:41 PM
> To: Christophe Job
> Subject: Eclipse Web Tools Project
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> Christophe,
>
> Do you want me to contact the BEA lead of the
WTP project in Eclipse?
> I'd like to get some preliminary discussion
going about JSF.
> Do you know who that BEA person is?
>
> Thanks,
> -Roel.
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