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Re: [wtp-dev] JSDT JS parser, internal representation, type inference and all that jazz

Hi Angelo,
You seem to be concentrated on typescript nowadays.
Does that mean you have abandoned

On 7 Apr 2016, at 3:33, Angelo zerr wrote:

Hi Eugene,

Many thanks for your feedback!

At first please read my post at

I have started to implement my idea with TypeScript Editor and it starts working great, in other words when I edit a big ts file, I have a very fast
performance because I don't use an AST:

* syntax coloration is done with Eclipse ITokenScanner (I have reused the
JSDT JavaCodeScanner)
 * code folding that I'm implementing is done according tabulation

My conclusion is to create an AST only on background and not when a ts file is editing like JSDT does today. This AST should be used only for inference
engineckgr (or filll outline on background) and not for features like
syntax coloration, code folding, etc (it's the idea of VSCode which is so

My TypeScript Editor is a lightweigt editor that it could be used for
JavaScript too. In my case the build of AST is done on background with
tsserver. Hyperlink, completion, validation, hover call the tsserver
(inference engine) with a timeout and if it takes too time, it doesn't
freeze Eclipse. User has not available result of completion when inference
engine takes too time the first time but eclipse doesn't freeze. When
inference engine has finished to compute AST and other inference jobs,
completion is available. If JSDT could provide a lightweiht editor, could be very fast too.

Perhaps I have missed something, but today my TypeScript Editor is very
fast with large file when user open a big ts file.

Regard's Angelo

2016-04-07 9:00 GMT+02:00 Eugene Melekhov <emvv@xxxxxxx>:

Hi all,

I've been working on accommodation of the JSDT core to ES6, new esprima
parser etc. Right now I'm working on restoring
so called "bindings" used for code assistance etc.

I will finish the job that I've started and will implement initial
bindings resolver for single source but... I must admit
that in my opinion what we're doing at the moment is wrong.

* We're trying to reuse old dom model inherited from JDK which is not
fully compliant with JS reality even after
 addition of ES6 specific constructs.

* This model is not very convenient for internal and especially external

* We have to convert this model to fro JSON/other AST formats.

* Integration with JS modules like esprima or Tern or anything alike is
resource consuming, complex, opaque, error prone

So, what is the right way in my opinion? The answer is to completely
abandon or internal representation (ASTDom) model,
esprima parser and any other JS based tools like Tern and switch to using
Google closure compiler infrastructure instead.

This approach has the following advantages:

* Closure compiler is fast

* It's written in Java and there are no problem with integration.

* It's a mature project with vast and VERY active community

* It has it's own perfect internal representation (IR) and it's possible
to use just AST(rhino trees) if necessary

* IR has great traversal infrastructure

* IR and a pluggable compiler allows to perform all tasks that we need. IR
can be used for for outline
   view, symbol tables for code assist, search, navigation, auto
completion, refactoring and so on.

* It has call graphs, type flow graphs, type inference out of the box.

* It has code validation, lint etc

* It has code printer

* It's possible to use it's IR to perform any other necessary tasks like
more elaborate type analysis that TAJS does.

In conclusion, I believe JSDT should switch to Google closure compiler
back-end as soon as it possible before it's too
late. It would allow to forget about almost all low-level problems and
concentrate on implementing functionality that is
visible and is really necessary for JSDT users:

* Fast modern editor

* Elaborate code assistance

* Smart navigation

* Smart refactoring

* Integration of v8, node, npm, gulp, babel etc

* Debugging

* JSX support

* and so on, you name it

Thank you.

Eugene Melekhov

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