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Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
So, just so we're clear, should we expect the WTP team to work on a TomEE server adapter (provided via the discovery mechanism) or will you guys wait for an external contribution? 

I personally can't imagine a TomEE server adapter living outside the WTP codebase, since it's pretty much a tomcat 7++. And I'm pretty sure at least the Tomcat runtime detection algorithm will need to know about it, to avoid detecting it as tomcat 7.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks for the clarification.

 

 

From: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elson Yuen
Sent: November-07-13 9:25 AM


To: General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
Cc: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

 

Let me clarify that I am not suggesting to move the tomcat server out of the WTP project.  All I am saying is we'd like to expose the new server adapters via the discovery mechanism.

Regards,
Elson

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Inactive hide details for Tim deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21 AM---This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is sugTim deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21 AM---This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is suggesting otherwise. I assume this was

From: Tim deBoer/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 11/07/2013 08:43 AM
Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
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This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is suggesting otherwise. I assume this was just paranoia around Elson's choice of words.

Tim

Inactive hide details for Mike Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34 PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to thMike Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34 PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to the notion of supporting popular open source s

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A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to the notion of supporting popular open source servers like Tomcat out of the box. Last time I checked, Tomcat was an Apache project, not "vendor specific".

From: Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:55 PM
To: 'General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.'
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While decoupling of WTP from individual server adapters is great, we should not be pushing server adapter maintainers away from Eclipse Foundation, if that’s where the maintainers would like to develop and host a particular adapter. This is especially true for adapters with long history of active development at Eclipse Foundation, like the Tomcat adapter. The key goals is decoupling of adapter schedules from WTP schedule and providing uniform access to adapters via adapter discovery, but none of those goals actually require moving adapter development somewhere else. Tomcat adapter could be split off as a separate project under server tools (provides release schedule independence) and published on eclipse.org for adapter discovery.

- Konstantin


From: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elson Yuen
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:32 PM
To: General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
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Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
 

In general, our direction is to move away to from shipping individual server adapters directly within WTP.  We are pushing for all vendor specific server adapters to provide externally via the "Download additional server adapters" link.  Therefore, if you happens to be creating a new server adapter for TomEE, it should be exposed via the downloadable server adapter.  See the plugin org.eclipse.wst.server.discovery for providing additional server adapter.

Regards,
Elson

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Inactive hide details for Larry Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55 PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-doLarry Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55 PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do list including creating a BZ entry.  Th

From: Larry Isaacs <Larry.Isaacs@xxxxxxx>
To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 11/05/2013 04:06 PM
Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
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Hi Fred,

With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do list including creating a BZ entry.  The problem is I’m back to struggling to finding enough cycles to get something finished and committed.  I have done some initial work that needs a little clean up before it is ready to commit.  The big unknown is the “Serve Modules without Publishing” feature, as they have made major changes to how resources are handled in Tomcat 8.  That will likely have to come later.  It’s unclear whether I will get the initial work committed for 3.6.0M3.  I have some extra vacation scheduled around Thanksgiving, so I should be able to get it into 3.6.0M4 if not in M3.

Cheers,
Larry

From: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Bricon
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:40 PM
To: General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
Subject: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

Hi,

I vaguely remember reading something, somewhere, about a Tomcat 8 support work-in-progress. I couldn't find any related BZ ticket though. What's the status on that matter?

There's one request[1] to add TomEE to the list of supported servers. Do you have any plans on adding that to Luna?

Thanks,

Fred

{1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=387733


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