| David,   Thank you for the fast reply and pointers.  We'll give them a try 
today and let you know the results.   I have to add, however, that from what you've written it appears that it is 
no longer possible to find out just exactly what all the prerequisites for a WTP 
build are.  As you stated, there are many more libraries specified from 
Orbit than are needed in the project map.  Are the precise, minimal 
prerequisites required for a WTP build really undefined at this point?  Or 
more likely simply maintained somewhere else?  If the latter, a pointer to 
that list would be quite helpful as well.   Best regards, Todd   
  ----- Original Message -----  Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:32 
PM Subject: [work] Re: [wtp-dev] Loading 
  workspace with latest WTP project map isnot working 
 Todd, I entered this bug to 
  not lose track of the new limitation.
 
 88550 Load Map Projects won't load http map entries
 https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188550
 
 But here's the background and some 
  suggestions to perhaps help.
 
 The 
  HTTP form of the map entry was added specifically for PDE build, so that
 bundles that exist elsewhere can more 
  easily be retrieved using protocols other than
 cvs. In this case, the desire is to "pull" the already 
  built bundles from the orbit download site.
 
 I think most of us normally recommend those types of 
  jars/bundles are simply put in your target,
 for development. Each orbit build produces a zip file that contains all 
  the bundles.
 See for example, 
  http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/S200705021947/
 
 If you do pull them into your workspace, 
  there's a few problems. First, there's many more bundles listed there in the 
  map file than is
 used in WTP. And, in 
  most cases, depending on some preference settings and how the project was 
  defined,
 it is not trivial to load 
  multiple versions into your workspace ... you have to give each project a 
  unique
 name .. .such as to include 
  it's version number after the project name in Eclipse workspace.
 
 If you did want to still try, say 
  getting a reduced set into your workspace, each Orbit build produces both an 
  HTTP
 form of the map file, and a more 
  traditional CVS version of the map file. So ... you just need to figure out 
  which orbit
 build was used, say by 
  date and time, and get the corresponding cvs map file, and use Load Map 
  Projects (on some limit
 set of unique 
  versions, as used by WTP).
 Or .. btw, 
  you could just get the most recent one ... it would be more correct, if 
  different at all.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 P.S. Be sure to document any tips 
  and tricks you learn, so others can benefit from you leading the way  :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
    
    
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            | Subject | [wtp-dev] Loading workspace with 
              latest WTP project map is not       
               working |  
 
 |  
 
 All,
 
 We're 
  trying to set up an internal build of WTP 2.0RC0 and are having trouble 
  pulling all the projects into the workspace using the map file.
 
 We began by using Eclipse 
  3.3M7 with all prerequisites as specified on the dependencies page.  We 
  loaded up the latest releng tools plugin from the Eclipse platform (http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.3M2-200609220010/org.eclipse.releng.tools-3.3M2.zip).  We then pulled the
 the RC0 map file 
  here:
 http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R2.0/S-2.0RC0-200705171455/
 
 When we load the projects from 
  the map, everything proceeds along fine until we receive the following error 
  from CVS in the form of an error dialog:
 
 Could not connect to
 :ext:http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/I200705160545/bundles/com.ibm.icu.base_3.4.5.jar:
 I/O exception occurred:
 CreateProcess: ssh -l anonymouse http cvs server error=2
 
 It appears the issue is that 
  the releng tools don't understand non-CVS entries of the form:
 plugin@xxxxxxxxxxx,3.4.5=GET,http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/I200705160545/bundles/com.ibm.icu_3.4.5.jar
 I base that on the error message and the fact that Eclipse 
  tries to create a CVS repository location with 'http' as the server 
  name.
 I checked the documentation on checking out WTP 
  (http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.wst.doc.isv/html/check_out_tutorial.html) and the map file still seems to be the recommended practice.
 
 So, given all that, what do we 
  "not know" or are "doing wrong" that causes the import to fail?
 
 All help appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 Todd
 
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