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RE: [wtp-dev] JUnit Framework
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When I
asked the question, it was, of course, from the context of "how can
you help me?" more quickly produce my tests. Your
points are very valid and I agree 100% with what you say especially on your
point of avoiding component dependencies in tests.
Since
there seems to be so much code, I thought someone might have taken the
time to develop something for common efficiency and thought I had better
ask.
Thanks
again,
Gerry
I'm sure there
could be some good, common, helpful utility classes specifically for WTP, but
I'll voice my usual 2 cautions.
1.
We need to be careful not to get "tool fever" and end up spending more effort
on the tools than what the problem the tools are supposed to solve.
(For example, there's some utilities
that load up a workspace with pre-existing projects. This is probably good,
but in my experience, most of
us just
like to get a copy of some starting version, and then tweak it to suit
individual needs. A good general purpose one that met everyone's needs, and
had all kinds options could be
developed and maintained ..... but .... not sure it would be worth the
effort).
2. We need to be careful
in our test suites, as in our code, to keep our component dependancies minimal
and keep them clean. This kind of correct
architecture usually takes more work and planning than just whipping up
some quick tools and tweaking copies as needed. But, keep in mind, part
of our componentization effort is not
only that someone could "pull" just a subset to use ... that they could "pull"
the corresponding test buck to re-run
those tests in what ever context they wanted to. (So .... you wouldn't
want to make someone who was using only XML, to have to load J2EE also just to
get some common tool).
So, speaking of wasting time ...
that response was a lot longer than it needed to be. :)
Do feel free to propose any process or tool
improvements you can
contribute!
Thanks,
David
"Gerry Kessler"
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Thanks Jeffrey. I will take a look.
We have started
creating test cases for the jsf tooling code we have so far. You never
know. Maybe we will come up with something that can be useful to
all.
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Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] JUnit
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Gerry,
There are some abstract
performance testcases in org.eclipse.wst.common.tests.performance that you may
find useful, depending on what you want to do... Other than that, I'm not
aware of any. Will you be interested in contributing some :)?
Thanks,
Jeffrey Liu
IBM
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Thanks David.
Yes, I saw that and I know I must use this to eventually hook into the
build-and-run-tests process.
What I really meant to say, I guess, is there
a set of WTP specific TestCase/TestSuite sub-classes that are commonly used?
Is there a set of common utility classes used to do common setup-type
things?
Thanks,
GK
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Yes, sort of .... we use the same as "base Eclipse" .. its
available from their download page.
Its a zip that starts with
"eclipse-test-framework- "
You can see any of our test plugins, which have a test.xml
file that "hooks in" to it.
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Hi All,
Has there been a common testing
framework developed for WTP that one might be able to use? I don't see
one, but I could have missed it. If not, is one being
considered?
Thanks,
Gerry Kessler
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