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Hi Tim,
What are the non-generic server adapters support remote servers outside 
of WTP?
Thanks,
Justin
Timothy Deboer wrote:
Hi,
The changes to org.eclipse.wst.server.core.internal.Server are 
actually not required - it is setting up defaults which should 
automatically be overwritten when the user picks a hostname. Outside 
of WTP we actually have a couple of (non-generic) adapters that 
support remote servers, so the wst.server framework should already 
support this unless you run into any special cases.
For the server states, I'm not convinced that we need new ones. We've 
seen two types of servers with similar requirements - in one case we 
used the same states and just used different text in the UI, and in 
the other there is a background thread that just updates the state 
between STARTED, STOPPED, or UNKNOWN. Unless we are expecting large 
delays when trying to connect, do we really need to have new states or 
display it any different to the user? If I'm not thinking along the 
same lines as you, a state diagram might help to clear things up.
In either case, please open a bug for this support, and so that we can 
track any changes. Even if you aren't done enough of your 
investigation to submit a patch or requirements, we can continue the 
discussion there or even assign the bug to you for now. :)
Arthur - The API you're suggesting already exists. 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.util.SocketUtil.isLocalhost() returns true 
if the hostname is local, taking into account the various forms of 
localhost and DNS lookup.
Thanks,
Tim deBoer
WebSphere Tools - IBM Canada Ltd.
(905) 413-3503  (tieline 969)
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Mike,
Seems like hostname != localhost is not a safe way since there are 
other ways to refer to your local machine, e.g. 127.0.0.1, or use the 
actual hostname, e.g. at work I'm ryman.torolab.ibm.com.
Why not add a property to explicitly indicate local support?
Arthur Ryman,
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	[wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
	
 
Hello WTP-Dev,
 
I am working on a patch to enable use of remote servers with the 
Generic Servers from WTP, with this in mind I have already taken out 
the hard-coded “localhost” hostnames in the classes 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.internal.Server and 
org.eclipse.jst.server.generic.core.internal.GenericServerBehaviour 
and replaced them with calls to the method 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.getHost() which is now working. 
 Also I have created a server definition for a server type that has a 
property of supportsRemoteHosts=”true” so that I can see a servertype 
when I change the hostname.  I can now create a local version and a 
remote version of my server type, and I can even start my local server.
 
Where I am now is that I have got to a point that when I try to run my 
remote server ie. (my connect to a remote server server) it is running 
though a piece of code in 
 org.eclipse.jst.server.generic.core.internal.GenericServerBehaviour. 
setupLaunch() that checks that the ports for the server are not in use 
and this is a problem for connecting to a remote server as this check 
is irrelevant, instead I would like to disable this check and anything 
else that is specific to using a server on a local machine in the 
remote case.  What would be an acceptable way of doing this?  Would 
hostname != localhost be enough to determine the server is a 
connecting to remote server rather than running a local instance of a 
server?
 
I had an idea that I might be able to create new states for the server 
called org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_DISCONNECTED, 
 org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_CONNECTING, 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_CONNECTED, 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_DISCONNECTING and use these 
instead of the org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_STARTING, 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_STARTED, 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_STOPPING and 
org.eclipse.wst.server.core.IServer.STATE_STOPPED in the case of a 
remote server.  Checks for these states would be added to the ones of 
the start server and in the case of the remote server we will progress 
through this 2^nd set of states.
 
What I would like to hear from you is;
 
i)                 Is this a good idea?
ii)                Would you have a rough idea of how many places 
these states would be set and read?
iii)              Would there be many complications to adding this new 
sequence of states?
iv)               Would a fix like this be acceptable to you guys?  If 
not can you suggest to me an alternate way I might approach this?
 
Thank you for all your time and effort,
 
Mike Reidy.
 
 
 
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