Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Contradiction in 'field decoratior

[Susan Franklin McCourt <susan_franklin@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi, Eitan,

This document captured the proposed field decoration approach for Eclipse 3.2, but the design was never implemented. We had some implementation issues to solve (regarding dialog layout and leaving space for the indicators), followed by the interaction design issues to work out, including the issue you mention - what to do when a required field is in error when the wizard opens.

Other concerns were more basic. When is it necessary to use the required field indication at all? For example, we don't need it when there is only one field, or if it is a well-known pattern (user login dialog). If you use them in some dialogs, does the user expect to see them everywhere?

So I'd say the visuals were never fully battle tested and without trying to implement them, we never solved the interaction issues.
There are actually still open bugs on this topic [1], but no push for consensus.
If you are curious about the history and what we did try during 3.2, you can read [2] and [3].

I've updated the wiki page to point to the currently open bug and to clearly state that this was never implemented.

susan

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=120238
[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=133529
[3] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=237372

Daniel Megert ---11/16/2009 12:35:04 AM---I think the Field Decorators and Validation is just wrong/outdated. The

Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: ui-best-practices-working-group-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 11/16/2009 12:34 AM Please respond to User Interface Architecture Working Group

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I think the  Field Decorators and Validation is just wrong/outdated. The
Save As dialog in the Eclipse SDK is not like on the picture i.e. doesn't
decorate fields with errors or warnings.

Dani

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Hi all,

The document Field Decorators and Validation describes the behavior of
errors by showing an error decorator next to the field:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Image:SaveAsError.gif

This is contradictory to the guidelines for validation of data:


 (…)If the first required field is empty, an informative prompt should be
shown in the text area, directing the user to fill in the field (…)
and also is not implemented in any wizard. So the question is what should
be the behavior for new wizards?
In my opinion we should ignore the decorators for errors in wizard to be
consistent with the current implementations and make a remark in the
document specifying that this behavior is not yet implemented to avoid
future confusion.

Best Regards,
Eitan


Eitan Kurejwowski
User Experience Designer
UX Tools and Technologies
SAP Labs Israel
T   +972 9 7779732
mailto:eitan.kurejwowski@xxxxxxx
http://www.sap.com



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