Re: [tractusx-dev] Open Disscussion - Alignment to one diagram drawing t

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Hi all,

thank you all for your input so far.

For everyone to verify / checkout the purposed tools:

PlantUML: https://plantuml.com 

Graphviz: https://graphviz.org 

Mermaid: https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid

Draw.io: https://app.diagrams.net

Are there some more thoughts or suggestions on diagram drawing tools?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

Fabian Grün

Reliability Engineer

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Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> im Auftrag von Johannes.Zahn@xxxxxx <Johannes.Zahn@xxxxxx>
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Hi,

Within the IRS Team we also used plantUML and have good results.

I never used Mermaid, but we can change if necessary.

Overall it is important that it can be version controlled and is therefore code based.

 

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Yes 😊 I’d be also in favor of a version controlled approach.

 

Both, PlantUML and Mermaid, support that.

 

Both tools are good IMO. I think in the end it depends on the use case and needs which tool to use.

I just found this video, may be a good summary:

https://youtu.be/tPh9_Cx4yZY

 

Kind regards,

Evelyn

 

 

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I would also strongly favor a version controlled code-based approach over a tool like Draw.io for all the reasons stated.

 

Also, I still want to throw stuff at walls remembering all the time lost on good drawings with Draw.io due to unexplainable session-timeout-non-saviness using it integrated into browser-based tools in corporate settings :$%&#*

 

:-P

 

 

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Hey Guys,

 

We are also working with plantUML a lot for the same reasons mentioned by Paul. Draw.io is good for non-coding people but couldn’t benefit from a full version control.

 

We should also remember the current shift of the documentation into KITs and standards, written in Markdown and hosted on the following page with Docusaurus:

https://eclipse-tractusx.github.io/developer

 

Would also be great to see some integrations there, like an automatic diagram generation via pipeline.

 

 

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Malte

 

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Von: tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> Im Auftrag von Paul Latzelsperger
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Hey Fabian,

 

Personally I like plantUML because it is well supported in tools (VSCode, IntelliJ), is highly customisable and it can be easily version-controlled. Don’t know Mermaid, but I’ve used Draw.io in the past, but just for quick drafts.

 

Regards,

Paul

 

 

On 13.04.2023, at 12:15, fabian.gruen--- via tractusx-dev <tractusx-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi committers,

 

I just want start a disscussion about possibilities to draw diagrams as code with open source tools.

 

I have already seen some good approches in some of Eclipse Tractus-X repositories.

 

Do you have already used some kind of tools like PlantUML, Mermaid or something like that?

Do you have an personal favorite that also can be easily used by all working members within Eclipse Tractus X?

Of course these tools have to be aligned with allowed open source licences of the Eclipse Foundation.

 

So basically can we all align to one (or at least a few) format / tool / option we want to use? 

The reason would be to make it easier for everyone to maintain / update diagrams.

 

What are your thoughts about it?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

 

Fabian Grün

Reliability Engineer

 

Mercedes-Benz Tech Innovation (ehemals/formerly Daimler TSS GmbH)

Wilhelm-Runge-Straße 11

89081 Ulm/Germany

 

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