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Re: [tools-pmc] Request archiving Tools for Mobile Web

Hi Martin,

I put out a request for discussion on sequoyah-dev in December that we
were planning to discontinue participation on the simultaneous
release. There was no response and so I alerted EMO. We lost several
team members at the end of last year and the main project is in
maintenance as of SR2. My team and I do not have the bandwidth to
handle the requirements needed to be on the release train for Juno.

-E

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Oberhuber, Martin
<Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Gorkem, Eric -
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>
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> Did you notice attached E-Mail on cross-project ?
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>
> There is some confusion around whether MTJ and Sequoyah should be on the
> Juno coordinated release or not.
>
> Please check http://wiki.eclipse.org/Juno/Projects_and_b3aggrconfile
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Gorkem Ercan
> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 6:06 PM
> To: Tools PMC mailing list
> Subject: Re: [tools-pmc] Request archiving Tools for Mobile Web
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> This is actually not a good time to terminate MTJ. I am aware of a project
> starting by an Eclipse member that is aiming to adopt and extend MTJ
> further.
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>
> Anyway MTJ is a mature project that provides tooling around MIDP for JavaME
> developers. It is very much in use by the MIDP developers. At this point the
> work on MTJ is concentrated more on adjusting to platform changes and bug
> fixing.
>
> --
>
> Gorkem
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> On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:46 PM, ERIC CLONINGER <dcp874@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I would like to see how much usage the project has in the last year
> before we go to the effort to move the project into Sequoyah vs.
> leaving it vs. closing it. After the holidays, it would merit spending
> some time to look at downloads. I don't see any activity on the dev
> list, but that isn't always an indicator of adoption.
>
> It's a mature project and may not need a lot of hand-holding. But if
> it's not seeing a lot of install activity, then that's another matter.
> FWIW, Sequoyah may not see direct installs through Eclipse.org, but we
> have 5-10K per month as a result of MOTODEV Studio. So, it's up to
> Gorken to comment on the matter as the project lead.
>
> -E
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Schaefer, Doug
> <Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I think we should consider Terminating MTJ as well, or at least move its
>> assets up to Sequoyah. A one part-time person project isn't worth the
>> overhead. Thoughts, Eric?
>>
>> :D
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-
>>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David M Williams
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:42 PM
>>> To: Tools PMC mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [tools-pmc] Request archiving Tools for Mobile Web
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds good. Thanks for initiating this.
>>>
>>> I suggest as the next step you write a short "Termination Review"
>>> proposal,
>>> and send to Wayne, so he can circulate to community and schedule the
>>> "review period", just to insure the right processes are followed, all is
>>> documented, etc.
>>>
>>> Here's one example,
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/project-slides/CobolTerminationReview.pdf
>>> And some shorter examples on the Technology wiki:
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Technology/Subproject_Termination_Review_2011
>>> (and, a short one definitely seems appropriate for this case).
>>>
>>> So, I believe that leaves Sequoyah itself (which has its own code and
>>> committers, not just a contain project, right?) and one subproject,
>>> Mobile
>>> Tools for the Java. I  was surprise to see the "incubating" logo on
>>> Mobile
>>> Tools for Java ... after having several 1.0.x releases, I would have
>>> thought
>>> they would have graduated. Is this a portal database error ... or, should
>>> they
>>> initiate a graduation review as well?
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Eric.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ERIC CLONINGER <ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:   Tools PMC mailing list <tools-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>> Date: 12/20/2011 10:07 PM
>>> Subject:      [tools-pmc] Request archiving Tools for Mobile Web
>>> Sent by:      tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to propose that the Tools for Mobile Web project (TMW) be
>>> archived. TMW is a sub-project of Sequoyah that was proposed in June
>>> 2010 and was approved in September 2010. The last commit was in October
>>> 2010 and the only activity on the mailing list has been automated
>>> submissions
>>> from portal informing the project that their metadata is out of date. The
>>> people behind the project have moved on and are not interested in the
>>> technology, at least in this incarnation, so it needs to be put to rest.
>>>
>>>    http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.sequoyah.tmw
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eric Cloninger (ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
>>> Product Line Manager, MOTODEV Tools
>>> Eclipse Sequoyah Project Lead
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> --
> Eric Cloninger (ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Product Line Manager, MOTODEV Tools
> Eclipse Sequoyah Project Lead
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> --
> Gorkem
> http://www.gorkem-ercan.com



-- 
Eric Cloninger (ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Product Line Manager, MOTODEV Tools
Eclipse Sequoyah Project Lead


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