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RE: [tools-pmc] FW: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
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Thanks Anthony,
I have a little more detail. It was a contribution from the
IBM developers that created the Eclipse-based Cell IDE to Parallel Tools
Project. I'm not sure if it was solicited or not and I think Greg has been away
since I haven't heard from him. But I did hear from Beth Tibbits of the PTP
project who explained that the Cell team had desires to make the tooling more
generic and applicable to other community members. So I'm less concerned
now.
But this is something that has come up a few times
over the years and always made uncomfortable. If a contribution is
targeted solely at the customers of the vendor that contributed the work, is
that an appropriate contribution. On the surface, it appears that the vendor is
trying to find a open source home and distribution channel for the work and
chose Eclipse. They could have just as easily, if not more easily, created a
SourceForge project to achieve the same results. Unless they wanted the Eclipse
brand to help promote the work. And that's where I get really
uncomfortable.
At any rate, if the community strongly supports it, we as
the PMC should probably let it pass. I'm more worried if the community doesn't
express an opinion and it just slips through.
Cheers,
Doug.
Hi Doug,
" the Cell IDE fits into the
PTP mandate", what does PTP have to say about this?
If this is
a contribution request to PTP why are we asking the tools PMC for
guidance?
Cheers...
Anthony
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"Schaefer, Doug" ---07/11/2008 11:27:56 AM---Looking for
guidance here. Is this an appropriate contribution to Eclipse?
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"Schaefer, Doug"
<Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> |
To: |
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Cc: |
Bjorn Freeman-Benson
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07/11/2008 11:27 AM |
Subject: |
[tools-pmc] FW: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE
contribution to PTP |
Looking for guidance here. Is this
an appropriate contribution to Eclipse?
Cheers,
Doug.
From:
ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:11
AM
To: Parallel
Tools Platform general developers
Cc:
lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
Cool, thanks Craig. I can
see Cell being useful for the scientific community. But I'm trying to figure
out if there is any separation between the Cell IDE and IBM commercial
interests. You did somewhat confirm that you are an IBM customer and do fit on
the commercial side. I assume IBM, like most platform vendors, should be
providing a supported IDE as a part of their solution, no?
I think we get into a fuzzy
area when a commercial vendor contributes software that can only be used with
their products. I have similar concerns with the xlc integration with the CDT,
BTW. I'll need to check up the chain about that, assuming that's what this is.
And, if the community fully support this, it makes it harder for me to
argue.
Cheers,
Doug.
From:
ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig Rasmussen
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:44
AM
To: Parallel
Tools Platform general developers
Cc:
lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
The Cell architecture is a big component of
Los Alamos' computing vision. We have just purchased the 1 Petaflop Roadrunner
machine and are looking for ways to ease the transition for our developers.
I'm a member of a small team of neural scientists at LANL who are purchasing a
small Cell based cluster for code development. Our team is also using Eclipse
and PTP and the Cell IDE fits very nicely in the parallel space we are working
in.
Cheers,
Craig
On Jul 11, 2008, at 8:34 AM,
Schaefer, Doug wrote:
I've added a comment on the bug. I'm
just wondering how the Cell IDE fits into the PTP mandate. And I'm
wondering about the community around the Cell IDE, i.e., who uses it, is
there a community outside of IBM commercial interests?
Doug wearing his Tools
PMC hat.
From:
ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008
5:09 PM
To:
Parallel Tools Platform general developers
Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell
IDE contribution to PTP
Greg,
I attached the necessary patches and the source code
for Cell IDE in the Eclipse bug #240243.
Please,
let me know if there is any issue.
Best
regards,
Leonardo Garcia
Linux on Cell and
Prism Focal Point - LTC Brazil
IDE Software Engineer - Linux on
Cell
Linux Technology Center Brazil
Phone: +55-19-2132-2068 (T/L:
839-2068)
lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx
Leonardo
Augusto Guimarães Garcia wrote:
Greg,
I opened Eclipse bug #240243 in order to
contribute Cell IDE source code to PTP.
I'll attach the
necessary patches and source code on the bug by the end of this week
so that you and others interested can take a look.
Best
regards,
Leonardo Garcia
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