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Jeff 
wrote:
>Sure would be good to have that 
parallel IP process extended to all projects 
;-) 
+1 
:-P
 
As for getting a tools 
incubator, I agree I think we need one. It does not make sense for a tools 
project to start its onw incubator just because it 
can.
It does not make sens 
not have to have the ability to incubate things in tools, especially when those 
are tightly linked to a certain tools 
project.
 
Note that web tools 
started theiur own incubator.
Incubators are in, 
they are cool. 
Let's do 
one!
 
--
Cheers
Philippe
  
  
you would have to have a subproject in Technology as 
  well.  IMHO it would be better to have one general Tools incubator 
  subporject with N components than N Tech subprojects.  Either solution is 
  not great.  
Jeff 
  
  
    
    
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Jeff,
Isn't that what the Technology project is for?!   It 
  seems almost ironic
for the Tools project to have a general purpose 
  incubating subproject when
the entire Technology project exists for this 
  purpose...
Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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unfortunately the 
  parallel IP process applies only to "Incubating
Projects".  VE is not 
  incubating. It seems a bit extreme to set up a new
Tools project to 
  incubate this work.  So an interesting question is whether
or not 
  Tools should have a general "Incubator" as we do in the Eclipse 
  TLP.
Jeff
            
                        
                        
                    
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Hi Yves:
Welcome 
  ! This is a great news.
Your contributions are very much welcomed and I 
  would love you join the
project and be a driving force for non-Java visual 
  editing.
Team, I had a good discussion with Yves on the phone and here is 
  how we
could go at it:
1/ we need a VE incubator for that, so we can 
  welcome new significant code
contributions and benefit from the paralell IP 
  process . Any thought from
the Tools PMC on how to do that?
2/ in the 
  meantime Yves and I will work to prepare his contribution 
  (mini
ip
review, package/names space refactoring, notices, licenses 
  etfc) and when
ready this will be posted in some public for everyone to 
  review
3/ at that stage I'll be able to start an IPZilla CQ to get review 
  and
approval for that contribution
4/ then we can vote Yves in asa 
   new committer
The interesting things is :
There are synergies 
  possibilities with the proposed contribution from Cathy
(the VE Groovy 
  extensions)
There have been request here and on the new group for XML 
  focused VE
extensions.
Thoughts? 
  Feedback?
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Philippe
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-----Original 
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From: ve-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
  [mailto:ve-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yves YANG
Sent: 
  Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:36 PM
To: ve-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 
  [ve-dev] Contribution on VE with XML editor
Hi All,
I'm Yves 
  YANG from Soyatec. I were the CTO of Omondo from 2002 and early
2006 and 
  built the key components in EclispeUML. In my new company Soyatec,
I work 
  in a project to edit UI in XML file on top of VE since Mai 
  2006.
This
product is on production now in our custosmer. We think it 
  could be
profitable for all users if we can contribute this kind of 
  solution in
Eclipse to promote the XML UI approach, instead of the Java 
  programming.
Please let me know if you are interested.
Best 
  regards
Yves 
  YANG
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