As opposed to “The Eclipse Web Tools Platform
(WTP) project extends the Eclipse platform with tools for developing Web and
Java EE applications”. As far as I’m aware, PHP is used almost solely
for Web applications.
From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:36
PM
To: 'Tools PMC mailing list'
Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Regarding
the diversity of PDT and the PDT 1.0 Gr aduation Review
I am not sure that a
PHP project would fit within the WTP charter. That would require some
investigation. As I recall, the charter refers to tools for de jure standards only.
From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007
10:26 PM
To: Tools PMC mailing list
Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] Regarding
the diversity of PDT and the PDT 1.0 Gr aduation Review
Yes. It turns out you are right. I thought
they had three active contributors from IBM.
We had a quick discussion and John is
charged with doing something about it. I personally think they are under the
wrong project and we should see if they would be better suited with the Web
Tools project which should be interested in PHP tooling, no?
BTW, I have typed this e-mail twenty times
and it used to be two pages long. But if you want to know what I really wanted
to say, you’ll have to buy me a beer, or two, or three. gurrr…
From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007
1:45 PM
To: tools-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tools-pmc] Regarding the
diversity of PDT and the PDT 1.0 Graduation Review
(hmm, this email was not delivered the first time -
trying again without the typo in the address)
Dear Tools PMC,
I was looking over the PDT 1.0 Graduation Review slides and slide 18 caught by
eye: "17 committers from 2 organizations (Zend and IBM)".
And yet looking at the commit explorer for the PDT project, I see that all the
code has come from Zend-employed committers and none from the IBM-employed
committers:
http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/summary.cgi?company=y&year=x&top=tools&project=tools.pdt
Three of the 17 committers are from IBM, but:
- bburns has never committed any code, ever, to any
Eclipse project
- pberkland has been active in Webtools, but not in
PDT or in any Tools project
- rgoodman has been active in Webtools, but not in
PDT or in any Tools project
Thus my question for the PDT Leadership and the Tools
PMC is:
- Given that the Eclipse Development Process says:
- 2.5
"a thriving, diverse and active community of developers is the key
component of any Eclipse Project"
- 6.3
"Reasonable diversity in its committer population as appropriate for
the type of Review. Diversity status must be provided not only as number
of people/companies, but also in terms of effort provided by those
people/companies."
- 6.3.2
"The purpose of the Graduation Review is to confirm that the Project
is/has: ... active and sufficiently diverse communities: adopters,
developers, and users"
- Given all that, how does "all the committers
come from one company" qualify as "sufficiently diverse"?
Thanks for helping me understand,
Bjorn
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