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RE: [tools-pmc] FW: [] Questions Abou t Release Review

Yes, Yossi, please feel free to use us as your primary resource for these kinds of questions. As your PMC we are responsible for making sure you have the answers and are successfully progressing through your incubation.


Very soon, I’ll be setting up a tools project leads mailing list so that we can all start communicating better. This will be a great place to share experiences as we all go through the Eclipse processes and try to build our communities. It’ll also help reduce the isolation that I’m sure you’re feeling since most of us don’t work with each other on a daily basis.


Anyway, we’re here to serve.



Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems

Eclipse CDT Project Lead, Tools PMC Member

From: tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:19 AM
To: 'Tools PMC mailing list'
Cc: 'Yossi Leon'
Subject: [tools-pmc] FW: [] Questions About Release Review


Tools PMC,


Although Yossi had his questions answered, it seems that these questions should really be ones that the Tools PMC should be helping him with as part of the PHP IDE's incubation process.


Mike Milinkovich
Executive Director,
Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
Office: 613-224-9461 x228
Cell: 613-220-3223





From: [] On Behalf Of Oberhuber, Martin
Sent: November 16, 2006 7:07 AM
Subject: RE: [] Questions About Release Review

Hi Yossi,



from, tab "Projects", Useful Links: Howto Release Review

Search for "Project Log" and follow the Link



from, tab "Projects", Useful Links: Project Status Infrastructure



If you want a slide deck template, the ones available officially are only available as PDF.

Ours is available as PPT as well, from by following

"Events: Release Review: PPT"



For the bugzilla statistics, see the links "For Release Review" on our bug process page

I simply copied & pasted this into Excel, it came out quite nicely; adding a few formulas

around it formatted it in a form suitable for the slide deck, see attached xls


Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member



From: [] On Behalf Of Yossi Leon
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [] Questions About Release Review

Hi Tim,


Thanks for the reply.

1. How do i get/create the IP log?

2. What do you mean by "Project metadata"?



Yossi Leon, 
Product Manager, Development Tools & PHP IDE Project Leader
yossi@xxxxxxxx +972-3-6139665 ext.229



From: [] On Behalf Of Tim Wagner
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [] Questions About Release Review


Release reviews need to be scheduled (posted) for the public at least 1 week prior to the event, and the materials should be readied in advance of the scheduling, since they are part of the posting along with the date/time/callin number that goes out to the community.


Some other random bits of advice from my own experiences:


  • Have an email statement from Janet Campbell stating that your IP log has been reviewed and blessed for release *in writing* available to show at the release review. Oral confirmation is not sufficient.
  • In general, the release “deck” should point back (via URLs) to most of the persistent information – your IP log, your project plan, Bugzilla, etc. in addition to summarizing them. This helps to show that you are being transparent and communicative outside the review per se.
  • Project metadata should be up to date and your website should reflect the release schedule, etc. contained in the metadata.
  • Remember that you need PDF as well as PPT format for the posting.
  • I would separate the release review into a small number (1-2) of “important” slides and then a larger number of “backup” slides – no one may ask you to go through history, feature lists, etc. (though you should have them ready) but you will certainly need to address issues like IP cleanliness as part of the public forum.
  • I’d suggest you invite some known adopters or users to attend as advocates and as a demonstration of your community building and outreach.


From: [] On Behalf Of David M Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [] Questions About Release Review


>  1. Release version: although i have milestones for 0.7, does it make sense (according to Eclipse way) to consider 1.0 version instead of 0.7?

No, I'd stick with 0.7. Its always easier to go "up" later, rather to go end up having to go "down" ... if, for example, in the off-chance you decided at some point to release a 0.9 version instead of a 1.0 version.
And, I'm just stating a general rule ... nothing specific to your project. We in WTP sort of did this wrong once in our distant past (and we still hear about it :)

Bjorn Freeman-Benson <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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10/26/2006 10:38 AM

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Re: [] Questions About Release Review




Your PMC (John and Doug) should help you prepare for a release review - it is a non-trivial undertaking and I suggest you start planning as soon as you can.  As John noted, the instructions about Release Reviews are here:

Yossi Leon wrote:
Hi All,
I'm taking Tim's advise and i'm posting my questions to the planning council:
As project leader i want to release the PHP IDE till the end of the year (Dec 21st). The current state is that we're about to release 0.7 Milestone 3.
1. Release version: although i have milestones for 0.7, does it make sense (according to Eclipse way) to consider 1.0 version instead of 0.7?
2. Schedule: How much time before the actual release i need to schedule the release review?
3. Any other suggestions i should consider before the release review?


Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Director, Open Source Process
Eclipse Foundation


971-327-7323 (Pacific Time)



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