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Re: [technology-pmc] [ice-dev] Committer vote for Andrew Bennett has been vetoed by the PMC

Hi Jay,

Thanks for the update. The best way to get him starting contributing to your project is via Gerrit. After signing the CLA, he can push reviews right away, which can be merged by another committer. 

Is there existing code he wrote that should go into your code repository? If yes, how large it?

-Gunnar

Am 18.11.2014 um 16:04 schrieb Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx>:

Hi everyone,

I emailed Wayne to figure out how I could get in touch with Gunnar/the PMC to talk about the vote to make Andrew Bennett a committer.

I'm sorry; I should have been clearer in my nomination. Andrew is employed by us on this project and he should have been listed as a committer on the proposal (in Feb.) because I knew he was switching to ICE. It just slipped my mind. He is currently working on ICE full time and has a boat load of code to commit. He was a committer on the Sourceforge.net project too for eleven months.

Wayne suggests that the code probably needs to come in through a CQ. I'm fine with that (and it would give us the opportunity to learn more about the process). This won't be the last of Andrew's work though. What do we need to do to get him committing?

Jay

>
> Hi Jay.
>
> The best way is to just engage via the PMC mailing list. Transparency and all...
>
> The entire PMC interpreted your nomination criteria as being motivated by employment status.
>
> I recommend that you, after explaining the situation to the PMC, restart the election citing that Andrew already has a record of contribution to the project.
>
> Another consideration is that the "boat load" of code that he has to contribute has been written outside of the context of the project and likely cannot be reasonably considered to have been developed "under the supervision of the PMC". Even if Andrew had been a committer from the beginning of the Eclipse project, that code would likely have to go through the IP due diligence process.
>
> As a general rule, a contribution is considered to be developed "under the supervision of the PMC" if the contributor was a committer before writing a single line of code, and the functionality is "in plan" (either explicitly in the project plan or has an associated bug).
>
> So the alternate recommendation is that you put the contribution in a CQ (which I believe that you need to do anyway) and immediately start the election citing the contribution as the nomination criteria. The PMC will accept that the code comes with a committer.
>
> HTH,
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On 18/11/14 05:41 AM, Jay Jay Billings wrote:
>>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> Do you know how I can get in touch with Gunnar? I need to talk to him about this.
>>
>> Andrew is employed by us on this project and he should have been listed as a committer on the proposal because I knew he was switching to ICE. It just slipped my mind. He is currently working on ICE full time and has a boat load of code to commit. He was a committer on the Sourceforge.net project too for several months after switching.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "portal on behalf of Gunnar Wagenknecht" <portal-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Nov 18, 2014 1:24 AM
>> Subject: [ice-dev] Committer vote for Andrew Bennett has been vetoed by the PMC
>> To: <ice-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc:
>>
>> technology.ice Committers,
>> This automatically generated message marks the PMC's veto of the vote for
>> Andrew Bennett's full Committer status on the technology.ice project.
>>
>> The PMC's comments were: Jay,
>>
>> Committership at Eclipse is not bound to employment. In order to become a
>> committer, a developer must demonstrate merit through contributions to the
>> project. Those contributions are typically patches submitted via Bugzilla
>> and/or Gerrit. Please reference them when nominating committers.
>>
>> -Gunnar
>>
>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your project
>> lead, PMC member, or the EMO <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
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>
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