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Re: [technology-pmc] Java profiling and "Selling out to the Man"
We will talk with the Mylyn project to make sure that they conform with the policy. 

Thanks,

Wayne


Francois Chouinard wrote:

Hi,
Would it be OK if we aligned with Mylin <http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/developers/>? (bottom of the page) 

Regards,
/fc
2010/2/5 Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>> 

    All,


    There is actually a written policy
    <http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Using_Proprietary_Tools_Final.php>[1]
    on how to go about adopting the use of a third-party tool. The
    issue I see in this case is that they are requesting an
    acknowledgement closer to a product endorsement than a simple
    “thank you”.


    Any questions can be directed to emo@xxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>.


    Thanks.


    [1]
    http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/Eclipse_Using_Proprietary_Tools_Final.php



    Mike Milinkovich

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    *Francois Chouinard
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    *Subject:* [technology-pmc] Java profiling and "Selling out to the
    Man"


    Hi "Technology PMC",

    My name is Francois Chouinard and I work on the Eclipse
    integration of LTTng under the Linux Tools project.

    We recently had a demo of a Java profiler (YourKit
    <http://www.yourkit.com/>) and were moderately (actually: quite)
    impressed.

    It turns out that they have this program where active Open Source
    developers can obtain a free license to use their product. In
    return, they ask that a little HTML snippet be displayed somewhere
    on the project page. Here's the snippet:

    "
    YourKit is kindly supporting open source projects with its
    full-featured Java Profiler.
    YourKit, LLC is the creator of innovative and intelligent tools
    for profiling Java and .NET applications. Take a look at YourKit's
    leading software products:
    <a href="http://www.yourkit.com/java/profiler/index.jsp";>

    YourKit Java Profiler</a> and <a
    href="http://www.yourkit.com/.net/profiler/index.jsp";>YourKit .NET
    Profiler</a>.
    "

    If I recall well, the Eclipse foundation used to frown over this
    kind of practice (if not downright forbid it) but I don't know
    where we stand now on this issue.

    Personnally, I would hesitate to "deface" our project page with
    commercial (i.e. non-open) material but it seems to be a good tool
    and I have some pressure from performance-freak, TPTP-disgusted,
    co-contributors to get it :-)

    So, I am weighing my options here and asking if it would infringe
    some rule (Linux Tools, Technology, Eclipse, ...) to add this HTML
    snippet to the LTTng project page.

    Thanks in advance.
-- Francois 


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