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Re: [technology-pmc] COSMOS Project review

Hi David. Developing community is an important aspect of being an Eclipse project. We'd like you to be doing anything and everything reasonable to reach out to that community. Having a blog that's aggregated on Planet Eclipse is a great way to make sure that the Eclipse community is aware of what you're doing; aggregating that blog elsewhere is also good (say in a domain-specific forum). Blogging is just one suggestion. What's important is the community.

I am (and was) aware of the graduation/release review. What parts of my review do you believe are inappropriate in light of this?

Wayne

David Whiteman wrote:
Hi Wayne,

Thank you for the detailed feedback. Several of the issues you touch on regarding our downloads page and milestone naming are temporary glitches due to miscommunication with our build team. We previously had those items correct, and are taking steps to restore them. Regarding a blog, we do all of our communication on our wiki (which sort of serves as a blog) and via the cosmos-dev email list and newsgroup. Do you feel a blog is essential for each project? I don't think anyone has even mentioned this to us before as a suggestion.

I was wondering if you were aware that we are having both a graduation and release review. Considering the graduation aspect of it, does this change the feedback that you would like to give us, or did you already have that in mind when you composed your comments?

Thanks,
David
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David Whiteman | IBM Tivoli Autonomic Computing
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technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 10/31/2008 12:02:05 PM:

Technology PMC,

I've done my review of the COSMOS project. It is my assessment that the project is progressing well. While I'd like to see more community development, it does seem that the project already has a very diverse group of committers, along with some commercial adoption. As I note below, most of the commits are coming from IBM employees, but a steady flow is also being registered by SAS and CA.

The project seems to be doing the right sort of things to help newcomers

familiarize themselves with the project. The website provides good help and the developers appear to be responsive in the newsgroup. I'd like to

see more blogging along with more explicit outreach.

I am a little concerned about how the project is labeling their releases. Their current naming scheme does not seem to conform to the conventions that are being followed by most other projects. Though it could just be that I don't understand what they're doing.

I have captured my research along with some of my thoughts below.

Wayne

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Some activity on the newsgroup. There are some links in the newsgroup to

several articles and press releases that indicate that COSMOS is getting

some adoption. All open bug reports appear to come from committers or, at least, from the project committers' colleagues. 147 downloads (as of today) of the COSMOS SDK. I'm not sure what we can derive from this as the downloads amount to a few here and there over a period of four months. I believe that it is fair to say that the community is relatively small.

The project does provide good documentation. Some parts seems more extensive than others. Similarly, some parts seem more refined than others. The point is that the project does seem to be providing the information prospective adopters require.

The committers appear to come from a diverse group of companies. Most of

the commits are by IBM employees, but some recent activity has also been

recorded from CA and SAS. It'd be nice to see more diversity in the actual commits.

Mailing list is quite active. Meeting minutes are posted. Development does appear to be very transparent and open.

Project plan [1] is not yet in the standard format. Plan includes a section with a "needs to be updated" section that should probably be updated.

The IP Log [2] appears complete.

I don't understand the strategy that the project is using to label releases. The current downloads are labeled "1.0.0", but releases are named "Iteration 12", "Iteration 13", and "Iteration 14". Where does the

1.0.0 come from. They mustn't have released a 1.0.0 as they are still in

incubation. I believe that candidate builds should be labeled as such. Our convention is to name milestones M1, M2, ..., so I expect to see releases labeled "1.0.0M1", etc.

The downloads page [3] contains a invalid link to "build types" [4] which I expect describes the different kinds of builds. This broken link

needs to be fixed. The download page doesn't format well on my system (Ubuntu 7.10 + Firefox 2).

Does the COSMOS project have a blog? I can't find it.

I get a broken link (500, could be temporary) off the home page from the

link from "CA, IBM First to Demonstrate CMDB Federation, Interoperability" [5]. That needs to be fixed.

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Cosmos_Release_Plan
[2]
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=technology.cosmos
[3] http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/downloads/
[4] http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/downloads/build_types.html[\
[5] http://article.wn.com/view/2008/09/08/
CA_IBM_First_to_Demonstrate_CMDB_Federation_Interoperability/

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