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Re: [technology-pmc] ORMF project needs assistance with project BA&D and SCM in general
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On 3 Nov 2008, at 14:46, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Great ideas, why don't you take on getting that going?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Touché! :-)
The Common build stuff is coming along, but it's not nearly ready
enough for consumption. Unfortunately, I don't have a really good
feel for how long we might reasonably wait for them to be ready.
AFAIK, most Eclipse projects use an automated build based around PDE
Build. I recently went through this process for the IDE4EDU SOC
component (you can find the releng project in CVS[1]). I tried to
smooth out some of the sharp corners in the project and inject a
little more documentation. This build is designed to run on Linux; I
can run it both on my own workstation and on the build server.
Somewhere I had got the impression that Eclipse was moving towards
Buckminster as the standard build infrastructure. Did I dream that or
is there a movement towards it?
There is some reasonably good documentation in the online help. Look
for the "PDE Build" task under the "Plug-in Development Environment
Guide". You'll get most of what you need there. The example that
I've provided adds Pack200, JAR signing, and update site creation
support.
Unfortunately, I don't think we do have this process documented
particularly well (especially the parts about Pack200, signing, and
generating that update site. Chris may have some better links than I
do.
Feel free to ask more questions in this list. Maybe we can massage
the existing docs together...
If you our someone else in the know is willing to guide him, I am
pretty sure that Yahya would be very happy to put in efforts towards
improving these.
HTH,
Definitely a start. Thanks
Joel
Wayne
[1]http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.soc/ide4edu/org.eclipse.soc.ide4edu.releng/?root=Technology_Project
Joel Rosi-Schwartz wrote:
Hi,
The ORMF project is starting to consider the automated build and
test process. As we are not dragging along legacy baggage we would
like to get this set up right to start with. The first challenge is
that we do not know where to begin. We have questions along the
line of, is there an "Eclipse way?" and what infrastructure is in
place to help us automate this. For instance, I have found
conversations about a "Common Build Infrastructure" but this seems
to be work in progress.
We have one contributor, Yahya Ozturk, who has some experience with
CM and who is very eager make do something concrete to move the
project forward. The problem is that he is not what one would call
a "self start", so unless we can layout a specific direction he
will flounder.
Can you good folks assist with providing some guidance for us.
While we are on the subject, I am wondering why there is not some
concrete information on the Eclipse site to assist with getting
projects up on running with a build and test infrastructure? I have
some specific ideas in this regard that I believe could be helpful:
A tutorial
A sample project
A webinar on the subject
An email support list or newsgroup focused on these challenges.
Sorry, please don't tell me "Great ideas, why don't you take on
getting the going?". I am already quite over committed with leading
ORMF :-)
Many thanks,
Joel
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
Thank you.
Joel Rosi-Schwartz Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx
Etish Limited http://www.etish.org/
ORMF and Useme http://www.eclipse.org/ormf
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