Wayne,
Yes, a CQ is required in order to support the automatic generation of
IP logs showing all the dependencies and pre-reqs, even those that are
"exempt". Barb can provide a better answer to the "how detailed does it
need to be", but I think that "A server supporting JSP 2.0" should be
fine. The key is document in our database of CQs all the dependencies,
not to create a huge administrative overhead for everyone.
- Bjorn
Wayne Beaton wrote:
Sorry...
I forgot to copy some important folks...
Wayne
Wayne Beaton wrote:
Hello EMO.
The COSMOS project has a dependency on a "server supporting JSP 2.0". I
believe this to be an "exempt pre-req".
First, can COSMOS get EMO approval?
Second, is a CQ required? If a CQ is indeed required, can it be worded
"A server supporting JSP 2.0"? Any attempt to enumerate the actual
servers and versions that can fit this requirement would result in
potentially dozens of quite redundant CQs.
Thanks,
Wayne
Barb Cochrane wrote:
_____ From: Barb Cochrane [mailto:barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent:
Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:25 PM
To: 'David Whiteman'
Cc: 'Jimmy.Mohsin@xxxxxx'; 'Ruth Lee'
Subject: RE: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log
Hi David,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.based on Ruth's mention of a couple of
projects, I mistakenly leapt to the conclusion that you had a few
specific
ones in mind. The Guidelines for Third Party dependencies suggest that
level of detail is required (same for CQs).
If the number of possible projects seem limitless, then how about a
discussion with your PMC to come up with a solution that involves a
reasonable, finite number? If that doesn't work for you, we can ask
EMO.
Please let me know if this sounds reasonable.
Thanks,
Barb
_____ From: David Whiteman [mailto:David_Whiteman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent:
Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:10 PM
To: Barb Cochrane
Cc: Jimmy.Mohsin@xxxxxx; 'Ruth Lee'
Subject: RE: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log
Barb,
It appears I might have hung the portal trying to create the CQ for
this.
It's difficult to know how to answer many of the CQ questions when
discussing a type of technology ("web server supporting JSP 2.0") that
is
not a specific product/project with a specific version number. Any
advice
would be appreciated.
Thanks, David ---
David Whiteman | IBM Tivoli Autonomic Computing
Eclipse COSMOS project committer |
<http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/>
http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/
dlwhiteman@xxxxxxxxxx | 919-254-8224 | T/L 444-8224
From:
"Barb Cochrane" <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
David Whiteman/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
Cc:
<Jimmy.Mohsin@xxxxxx>, "'Ruth Lee'" <ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx>,
Toni
Drapkin/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, Mark D Weitzel/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
Date:
10/21/2008 04:40 PM
Subject:
RE: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log
_____
Hi David, I'm going to break your question into 2 parts... 1)
Is Wayne correct that the pre-req is exempt? That determination is
EMO's. (Mike, Janet, Bjorn) 2) CQ requirement..yes. There has
always been a requirement that
"workswith" and "prereqs" be included in your IP Log. With the
introduction of the automatic IP Log, CQs for "workswith" and "prereqs"
are
required because the CQ database (IPZilla) is one of the databases that
feeds the automatic IP Log. If you enter a CQ and indicate it is
categorized as exempt pre-req, and
assuming PMC votes +1, we will send to EMO for review and comment.
After +1
from EMO, we'll resolve it as "worksforme" so it shows up in your
automatic
IP log. For avoidance of doubt, "workswith" and "exempt-pre-req"
CQs don't go down
the same triage path (and queue) as CQs requiring full due diligence
from
the IP team. I hope this helps! Cheers, Barb
_____
From: David Whiteman [ <mailto:David_Whiteman@xxxxxxxxxx>
mailto:David_Whiteman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:16
PM
To: Barb Cochrane
Cc: Jimmy.Mohsin@xxxxxx; Ruth Lee; Toni Drapkin; Mark D Weitzel
Subject: Re: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log Hello Barb,
Since she is out this week, Ruth asked me to discuss the matter with
the
PMC. Wayne responded as follows:
Actually, I think this is an "Exempt
Pre-req".
--
A pre-req may be classified as "exempt" by the EMO if the software is
pervasive in
nature, expected to be already on the user's machine, and/or an IP
review would be
either impossible, impractical, or inadvisable. Exempt pre-req's can be
approved for use
by the EMO without IP review. Examples: Windows XP, Sun JRE. However,
an exempt
pre-req may be disallowed by the EMO at its discretion.
--
Wayne
If he is correct, then this suggests to me that we just need a +1 from
EMO
with no CQ required. Do you agree?
Thanks, David ---
David Whiteman | IBM Tivoli Autonomic Computing
Eclipse COSMOS project committer |
<http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/>
http://www.eclipse.org/cosmos/
dlwhiteman@xxxxxxxxxx | 919-254-8224 | T/L 444-8224
----- Forwarded by Ruth Lee/Toronto/IBM
on 10/20/2008 09:08 PM -----
"Barb Cochrane" <barb.cochrane@xxxxxxxxxxx> 10/20/2008 09:56 AM
To
Ruth Lee/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, <license@xxxxxxxxxxx>
cc
"'Mark D Weitzel'" <weitzelm@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Toni Drapkin'"
<tdrapkin@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject
RE: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log
Hi Ruth, If the dependency is categorized as a "workswith" or
"prereq", then we
will need CQ
(s). Your PMC is the first pass to
determine the appropriate
categorization (if
applicable). If your PMC is undertain
whether it's a "workswith" or
"prereq", then
he or she would probably want consult
with EMO to aid in the
determination.
If the dependency is a "workswith",
then we will need a CQ with +1 from
PMC. The
approval of that CQ is virtually
automatic thereafter. If the dependency is an "exempt pre-req", then we
will need a CQ with +1
from PMC
and +1 from EMO. The approval of that CQ
would be automatic thereafter.
I hope this helps! Cheers, Barb
From: Ruth Lee [ <mailto:ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx>
mailto:ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:01 PM
To: license@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Mark D Weitzel; Toni Drapkin
Subject: Question before submitting the COSMOS IP log Hi Barb,
I think that our auto-log is as good as it's going to get in time for
COSMOS'
release review. I have one question
though. You referred me to this
document to
clarify prereqs
<http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/>
http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/
Eclipse_Policy_and_Procedure_for_3rd_Party_Dependencies_Final.pdf
In
that
document I saw section "a) Works-with
dependencies > ii)". The COSMOS UI
depends on
a third party software, a web server that
supports JSP 2.0 to be exact,
but does
not require a particular web server. The
team has tested with Tomcat
5.5.something
and JBoss. But the core COSMOS doesn't
depend on this. Does COSMOS need to
open an
IPZilla for some web server?
In parallel I'll follow up with Anne, cc you, to ask about submitting
the
manual IP
log instead of the auto log.
Thanks, Ruth.
Ruth Lee
IBM Toronto Lab
ruthdaly@xxxxxxxxxx
T/L 313-4453
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