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[technology-pmc] FW: BPEL Progress?

FYI,

Wayne
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: EDWIN KHODABAKCHIAN [mailto:EDWIN.KHODABAKCHIAN@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: June 22, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: Greg Adams
> Cc: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; Wayne Beaton; James Moody; 
> Michal Chmielewski
> Subject: Re: BPEL Progress?
> 
> Greg,
> I will circle back with Michal who drives the project on our 
> side and get back to you on both the validation front and 
> updated timelines.
> -Edwin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From Greg Adams <Greg_Adams@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent Thu 6/22/2006 10:15 AM
> To Edwin Khodabakchian <edwin.khodabakchian@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc 
> mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; Wayne Beaton 
> <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>; James Moody <James_Moody@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> Subject Re: BPEL Progress?
> 
> Hi Edwin,
> 
> I just got back and am catching up & syncing up with the team here.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the update on the progress and staffing. That's 
> great news that Edward is up and running and that you have 
> Horst coming on board soon.
> 
> Regarding validation, James had mentioned to Michal in the 
> past that we were investigating whether or not we could 
> contribute IBM's validation code to the project. 
> Unfortunately we will not be able to contribute this code at 
> the present time. I see that Oracle owns the validation item 
> in the milestone plan - I assume this will still be a 
> feasible item for you and is something we should push on soon.
> 
> In general, it seems that at the present time, our milestone 
> plan is problematic - a number of milestone dates have passed 
> but we still have open items that haven't been completed. 
> With the new resources that are on board, do you have an 
> outlook on when we can achieve some of these? For example, 
> I'm looking at the following items:
> 
> M0: December 15
> 
> - Storyboarding of LoanFlow. Michal had mentioned this was 
> something you wanted to be involved in, and is crucial for 
> ensuring that our tools handle a real-world use case.
> - Start Runtime/Debugger API design: It seems that we have 
> some other (non-IBM and non-Oracle) folks who are interested 
> in this space. I assume that since Oracle owns this item 
> you'll be tracking their progress to ensure we can meet the 
> deliverables?
> 
> M1: January 31
> 
> - Design of Validation Framework - See my comment above 
> regarding the validator.
> - Define line of validation errors/warnings with strings - 
> Also see above.
> - Contribute Samples - Last I heard from Michal, these were 
> being cleaned up. Have they been contributed yet?
> 
> M2: March 7
> 
> - Implement default, simple set of UI extensions (prompters, 
> XPath editor,
> etc) - As far as I know, no code has been committed by Oracle 
> for this yet
> - specifically for the prompters, this means we can't author 
> a bpel process from scratch.
> 
> M3: May 15
> 
> - Full-featured refined set of UI extensions (prompters, 
> XPath editor, etc)
> - It sounds like this is a refinement of the previous item.
> - Validation - This looked like the point we hoped to have a 
> functional validator.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As all of the above dates have passed, it seems like we will 
> need to do a reset of the milestone plan - it smells to me 
> like an October 1.0 release is in jeopardy. But before we do, 
> we need to ensure that we believe we can hit the new dates 
> with the resources we have in place. What are your thoughts 
> about a revised set of dates that would be attainable? In 
> particular I believe we need to have the m1,m2  content in 
> place with your help so that we can declare some victory, and 
> then sort out how best to jointly move ahead on the other 
> milestones together and with the rest of the community and 
> any new participants like sybase.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
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> Hi Mike,
> 
> Michal who is the lead of the project on our side has been 
> back from his surgery and actively involved in the project. 
> He has now access to additional resources to help accelerate 
> the implementation. My understanding is that the 
> communication between the teams is live and they are making progress.
> 
> Greg,
> Do you have a similar feedback on your side?
> 
> -Edwin
> 1 650 504 8118 (cell)
> 
> 
> On May 8, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
> 
> >
> > Greg, Edwin,
> >
> > Just checking back in to see if there has been any progress 
> on getting 
> > additional Oracle resources on the BPEL project? It's been 
> about six 
> > weeks since we talked last, as I recall.
> >
> > Mike Milinkovich
> > Executive Director,
> > Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> > Office: 613-224-9461 x228
> > Cell: 613-220-3223
> > mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > blog: http://milinkovich.blogspot.com/
> >
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