Re: [stellation-res] CVS Directory Structure

["Jonathan Gossage" <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Wright - IBM Research" <jwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <stellation-res@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [stellation-res] CVS Directory Structure


> Jonathan,
>
> At 01:57 PM 3/4/2003, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Wright - IBM Research" <jwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > At 12:57 PM 3/4/2003, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
> > > >BTW I took a copy of your modified script from the attachments to
> >Bugzilla
> > > >31589 and the new properties were not obvious.
> > >
> > > They were documented in a lengthy comment block (lines 4-57); I
thought
> >I'd
> > > also mentioned them in my posts announcing the patch, but didn't (just
> > > checked).
> > >
> > > How would you suggest making them more obvious (aside from mentioning
them
> > > in the patch description)?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jim
> >
> >The problem with your approach is that the only way to override those
> >properties is from the command line with -D specifications.
>
> Acutally, I currently use
>      $ ant -propertyfile test.props
> to invoke the test suite; I got very tired of typing the -D
specifications....
>
> >What I have done
> >is to allow them to be overridden from either the command line or from
> >${user.home}/stellation.properties.
>
> I'm slightly averse to putting override files in special locations that
are
> automatically pulled in, because of the grief we've had with
> ~/.svcrc files -- some of the broken CVS drops in our past occurred
because
> the submitter had magic values in his ~/.svcrc file, which were largely
> undocumented,
> and which of course did not exist on anyone else's system.....
>
> Other views on this?
>
One advantage of putting it off ${user.home} is that it is not within the
project structure and thus "should not" get checked in. The other advantage
is that it is a "set it and forget it" procedure which appeals to the lazy
soul within me. We have to be careful that we don't psych outselves out so
thououghly that all user convencies disappear. I must admit though that I am
partial to user conveniences :-)

> >In addition, I have defined new
> >variables ${core.path} and ${install.path} that simply point to the root
of
> >our directory sub-tree for building or installing. I have also built in
> >standard install path defaults for Windows in %HOMEDRIVE%:\Program
> >Files%\Stellation to provide a default home for Windows that will be
> >familiar to all Windows users.
> >
> >I have the build portion of build-core.xml working on Windows and expect
to
> >have the install portion working tonight (kitchen renovations
permitting). I
> >will then address the test script.
>
> Sounds good - I'm looking forward to seeing it.
> BTW, I work on both Linux (RH 7.3) and Windows 2K, and would be
> willing to check the Windows-related build and installation procedures
> once you think they're ready for testing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
Regards

Jonathan Gossage