RE: [stellation-res] Back online

["Jonathan Gossage" <jgossage@xxxxxxxx>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stellation-res-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:stellation-res-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark C.
> Chu-Carroll
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Stellation-res
> Subject: Re: [stellation-res] Back online
>
>
> On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 09:52, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
> > I finally have my system back online. I had to rebuild
> everything from the
> > ground up but I am now ready to roll again.
> >
> > I have a couple of questions.
> >
> > It seems that my first priority should be to ensure that we have build,
> > install and invocation scripts for Windows in addition to
> Linux. Does this
> > make sense?
>
> Absolutely.
>
>
> > Do we have a formal plan for getting to the first alpha release with the
> > tasks and responsibilities specifically identified? It seems to
> me that this
> > information is embedded in the list archives but is not
> explicitly visible.
> > Ideally there should be a link to the plan from the web site.
>
> No, we've never managed to set up a formal process.
>
>
> > What is the current status on self-hosting? Is this independent from the
> > alpha release?
>
> Self-hosting is pretty much ready to go. There was a fairly complicated
> review process by the eclipse.org folks to check the software we were
> installing to make sure it didn't open any major holes in the security
> of the eclipse.org domain, but we got the last clearance on wednesday.
>
> I'm trying to get things set up on the server, but I've had very little
> time to work on it. Personal matters have intervened: my wife is about 7
> months pregnant, and she's been showing some signs of premature labor,
> so she's on strict bed-rest, and between taking care of her and my
> 2 year old, I'm pretty well swamped.)

Been there, done that :-).  All the best. FWIW our kitchen is undergoing
complete renovation this weekend so be thankful you don't add that to your
mix :-).

>
> My tentative proposal (which I've been meaning to write up and send out,
> but haven't had time) is to start self-hosting as soon as the remaining
> critical bugs in bugzilla are fixed; but to limit access to the
> self-hosted repository to the committers for the first few weeks, until
> we are ready to declare the alpha.

I think that limited access is essential until we get things shaken down.
BTW one of the things that went west when my hard disk self-destructed was
the password for my access to CVS so I have effectively lost commit
privileges. Given that self-hosting is imminent, I don't think it is
necessary to do anything about CVS.

Do you intend to cleanup the current structure in CVS when you do the
initial move to Stellation? In particular, I would like to see a structure
that makes it easy to Manage the non-Java portions of the project as one or
more simple Eclipse projects. This would mean that almost all project
related work could be done from within Eclipse. Specifically, what I would
like to do is to create a simple Eclipse project immediately under
org.eclipse.stellation. Call it something like "support". The name is
immaterial. In this project I would like to include the files that are
currently in org.eclipse.stellation such as current.xml as well as
consolidating the two current document directories and providing a home for
miscellaneous script files etc. Am I making sense?

>
> Bugzilla is all set up and ready for us to do the task assignments.
> There are milestones set up, so that we can identify which entries
> we want to fix for alpha1 and which later; and it's got priorities, etc.

Sounds like the core of a plan is there.

>
> 	-Mark
>

Regards

Jonathan