See …
Bob/Oliver, you
must come. We have at least one pass for free. And
one for the other talk. I don’t need mine.
Marc
Thanks, Ian.
Apologies for the
confusion – and many thanks for your support. We did
not call it SOA Symposium because
1.
We may
even move away from the SOA branding (as discussed
before) and
2.
“Symposium”
sounds a bit boring.
Last year, we had
(disappointing) 5 participants for a similar format.
At ECE we had (very satisfyingly) 20+. Hence, if we
make 20+ in SFO, I would consider it a success. We
should cater for that.
Marc
Marc,
I missed the fact
that this tutorial was a SOA Symposium. I certainly
do want you guys to have the SOA Symposium this year
so I am glad you want it too.
J We definitely want to support project
meetings like what you have proposed.
How many people
do you expect, so we can plan a room size? Also do
you want it Monday morning or afternoon?
I will need to
work with Anne to find a room but I am pretty sure
we can find something for you.
Ian
All,
I am writing this
e-mail on behalf of and in accordance with the SOA
PMC and to this group as I don’t have Ian Bull’s
contact data. Kindly forward.
We greatly
appreciate the acceptance of our submission
https://www.eclipsecon.org/na2014/node/359
However, we intend
to express our frustration that a top level-project
like SOA is not worth more than a 30-minute talk on
an EclipseCon conference, especially taking into
account that
·
we
really had invested to put a proper, cross-project
agenda for the mentioned symposium together,
·
the 3
most active projects (Mangrove, BPMN2 Editor,
Stardust) represent more than 5% of the entire
Kepler codebase,
·
these
projects are constantly collaborating on integration
(e.g. homogenized support for BPMN 2.0, monitoring
integration between Mangrove and Stardust),
·
the ECE
2013 symposium was well-attended and
·
with
Winery we got another promising initiative on board
to connect to other industry standards (OASIS TOSCA)
and first collaboration with the Winery team has
already started.
We understand and
acknowledge that participation in previous
conferences and the commercial success of ECON are
important criteria, but I guess at least the further
is a chicken-and-egg problem.
In sheer
desperation we suggest to do some of the content
planned for the 3h symposium as a BoF session in the
evening. SunGard may sponsor drinks and we will try
to make it even more entertaining than a usual
symposium.
Many thanks,
Marc
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