Gents,
here
is the current working draft for our submission. Some
abstracts may need a bit of tweaking. I suggest that we work
on the document with change tracking activated. I am happy
to do the merge.
Would
be great to have your input by EOB tomorrow.
Marc
D., maybe we should combine the first two presentations?
Thanks,
Marc
Sounds
great, thanks a lot Marc for your initiative.
Adrian.
Great, thanks. Sorted
then. I will create a draft of presentation titles,
abstracts and presenters as well as a few words on the panel
and send it to you guys for review over the weekend.
Marc
Hi Marc,
Thanks!
The panel discussion also
seems like a good idea. In fact anything that can engage the
audience and increase visibility would be great, as it seems
that at Eclipse CON US there was a serious lack of content
on this overall theme (which is a pity as this theme is of
high importance to companies).
Cheers,
Adrian.
Thanks, Marc/Adrian.
Seems that we have
·
Marc Dutoo/Stéphane
Drapeau
- A "documentation" Talk
·
Marc Dutoo/Stéphane
Drapeau
- Managing your SOA with Eclipse SOA and EasySOA
·
Marc Dutoo/Stéphane
Drapeau
- Multi Platform Enterprise Processes : From Business
Modeling to Architecture and Execution
·
Adrian Mos -
DSL
integration in BPMS/SOA through Mangrove
·
Marc Gille - Stardust - a
homogenous Runtime Environment for BPM, SOA and Document
Processing
This should give us a
critical mass for at least half a day if not more. Bob,
anything from your end?
I am happy to assemble a
compound abstract list from the mails below so that we can
adjust and submit early next week.
What do you guys think
about adding a panel discussion with all SOA PMC, take
questions/topics from the audience during the above
presentations, selecting a few and discussing those in the
panel?
Cheers,
Marc
From: Mos, Adrian [mailto:adrian.mos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Freitag, 6. Juli 2012 16:36
To: Marc Dutoo; SOA PMC mailing list
Cc: Gille, Marc; 'Stéphane Drapeau'
Subject: RE: [soa-pmc] Joint Submission for SOA
Track
Hi Marc,
I would certainly be
interested in taking part in this. I’m sorry I’m completely
over my head this week hence my slow (and small) reply. I
could contribute to a general presentation by presenting how
Mangrove fits in the overall picture as well as talk about
DSL integration in BPMS/SOA through Mangrove, which could be
interesting to a number of people in the Eclipse community.
Here’s a first draft of what I could be talking about:
Designing business
process models and service oriented artifacts in Eclipse is
well supported by a variety of tools, such as the set of
editors available in the Eclipse SOA top-level project.
Similarly, many people use domain specific editors to
instantiate their DSLs. We aim to bridge the two worlds in
order to bring the power of DSL expressivity into the
SOA/BPM enterprise modeling tools while properly leveraging
SOA runtime support.
We will present and
demonstrate how popular Eclipse SOA modeling tools can be
connected with DSL editors while preserving consistency of
artifacts. We will show:
-
How business processes defined with Eclipse
BPMN editors can define DSL subprocesses that can
subsequently be refined in their respective DSL editors
-
How DSL-based processes can be exposed in BPMN
and SOA architectural diagrams (SCA)
-
The talk will illustrate
these points through practical demonstrations using existing
Eclipse editors. It will also show practically how any DSL
can be integrated in this manner by highlighting the various
plugins that need to be used. The artifacts stored in the
Mangrove instance will be displayed visually using the new
Mangrove editor.
Adrian.
Hi Marc
Here at Open Wide we're very much interested in such a join
track.
To start the ball rolling, here are a few talk ideas on our
side :
* a "documentation" talk.
Title ideas : "Models as operational documentation"," From
Eclipse EMF to CMIS document management", "Give a new life
to your models after design time, as operational
documentation in an ECM, with JWT as use case"
This topic has already been talked about in the PMC.
=> It could be enriched / revamped if other people
(Zsolt, Adrian, Stéphane, Alain, Marc) have things to say
on the "documentation" topic, or even want to integrate
their components (SCA, BPMN2) in this use case / this
component.
A version has already been shown at Grenoble Juno DemoCamp,
see slides
http://www.slideshare.net/mdutoo/eclipse-democamp-2012ecmv05pub
Abstract is described in the second paragraph (*) at http://www.easysoa.org/2012/06/publishing-models-documentation-at-eclipse-juno-democamp-grenoble/
* Managing your SOA with Eclipse SOA and EasySOA
Now, this is only a follow-up of the previous one in the
case where the document management platform is actually
EasySOA v1 (should be ready by then).
There are two steps / themes.
** 1. Documenting your SOA with Eclipse SOA and EasySOA
We'd like to show how it allows to discover services online
& in the code, and mix this information up with (Eclipse
SOA) business & architecture models and manual
documentation in a single SOA documentation portal.
** 2. Getting back the control of your SOA with Eclipse
SOA and EasySOA
We'd like to show how EasySOA allows to detect
inconsistencies between modeled expectations and the actual
developed / deployed / tested SOA.
=> here also people welcome, especially Stéphane on
SCA (I'll call you up to dig this a bit) ! Triggers
anything for anybody else ?
* Multi Platform Entreprise Processes : from business
modeling to architecture and execution
Entreprise BPM solutions (such as BonitaSoft's, Activiti or
Spagic's) are usually single-deployment platform, in the
all-in-one & integrated spirit. However, multi-platform
processes, that is business processes that are translated to
several executable processes or code logic deployed on
different platforms, are becoming necessary in the
entreprise. Indeed, on the "several executable processes",
side more and more entreprise solutions (as Document
Management, Collaboration, Portals...) embed their own
workflow engine. And if it's not the case, there is even a
better reason, that stems from aligement on business : the
"purely business" process modeled first out of discussions
with business users will never match perfectly with the span
of the underlaying workflow solution, and some part of it
will have to be developed in custom code within existing
applications, if only forms and validation logic based on
their existing internal services.
This talk will show how Eclipse JWT (Java Workflow Tooling),
helped by the EasySOA service registry, allows to first
design a "purely business" process, then map parts of it
onto physical platforms in an architectural phase, and how
compatible SOA BPM solutions such as OW2 Scarbo 2 allow to
deploy and execute them.
=> on the "architecture" part, SCA (or Mangrove)
editor & people (Stéphane, Adrian, Alain) are very
much welcome to plug in. Other are welcome if they have
things to say on the topic (Marc and Stardust ??)
Regards,
Marc
(*)
business domain models
designed in Eclipse can valuably go in a Document Management
System (DMS)
along with generated documentation (such images, HTML, PDF)
and get a new life there as design documentation that is
versioned, published and available to all, from business
users to developers. Saying it otherwise,
there’s
a life for models after design time, and
that’s as reference and documentation.
Note that we
are not talking about collaborative model editing, as in
Eclipse
Dawn /
CDO, but at what happens once edition has ended and
how to make it valuable beyond Eclipse-using business
analysts and architects.
This is a
larger problem than specific Eclipse BPMN /
Mangrove integration with EasySOA
Core as demonstrated last year at the same place, that we
sought to answer with a far more generic solution. To make
things short, it involves the
CMIS
standard and its
Apache Chemistry client on the DMS side, and a
customizable
ATL model-to-model transformation with matching and
filtering strategies on the Eclipse EMF model side.
Our
demonstration has been done in the case of
Eclipse Java Workflow Tooling (JWT)
models (for now it’s been prototyped as an Eclipse JWT
transformation). It’s been tested to work with a bare
Nuxeo
DMS as well as with its
Alfresco
Open Source competitor. From here, we’d like to write an ATL
transformation more specific to the EasySOA Core extensions
to the Nuxeo model.
Le 03/07/2012 17:22, Marc.Gille@xxxxxxxxxxx
a écrit :
Gents,
as we could not address this in todays call:
I am proposing to submit a proposal for a joint
half or full day SOA/BPM track as a joint contribution for
Eclipse Con Europe. I had discussed this with a bunch of
program committee members already and they seem to like it.
If you agree we should gather presentation
abstracts this week – I am happy to assemble those for a
proposal we can all sign off over the weekend.
Thoughts?
Marc
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